RE: [PSES] ESD testing

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I may have not phrased my reply correctly. I definitely would discharge to conductive surfaces, but I would do so with the contact discharge mode. The contact mode is more repeatable and has a faster rise time than air discharge. I only meant to say that after doing contact discharge evaluation

IEC 60950-1 short circuit test criteria

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi, I would like to get your opinion on the test conditions applicable for sections 2.7 and 5.3, primarily for short circuit test. Let's assume it is direct plug-in equipment/AC-DC power adapter. What will be most appropriate power source requirement for performing s.c. test for UK ring? I can

RE: FM Broadcast Band Channel Separation

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In Japan, the FM Broadcast band is 76MHz to 90MHz according to a number of sources as well as an FM receiver I have that when set up for Japan, starts scanning at 76MHz... Best Regards, Mike Hopkins EM TEST USA m.hopk...@emtest.com From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf O

Re: [PSES] ESD testing

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Brent: I would have to ask on what basis you would exclude conductive surfaces? My experience has been grounding defects were exposed by conductive discharge and as such it was a very valuable engineering tool. Fred Townsend Brent DeWitt wrote: Ian, I have always been of the

Re: [PSES] ESD testing

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, I have always been of the opinion that it is not required to do air discharge to conductive surfaces. That said, my current employer has written internal standards to include air discharge to conductive surfaces. I'll be interested to see where this thread leads. Brent DeWitt

Short range device frequencies for India

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Does anyone have spectrum assignment frequencies for India? Although 433 MHz band is available, but it is multipurpose. Are any other frequency bands acceptable (< 10 mW)? _Honeywell David W. Sterner Quality Assurance

IEC 61010-1 safety standard question

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi experts, A question about the IEC 61010-1 requirements to the bottom (and sides) of a device cases fire enclosure. With regards to the bottom there are well explained rules for the design of the bottom in 9.2.1 Constructional Requirements. I have a device with completely flat bottom without

Re: ESD testing

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The fun part of air discharges to insulating surfaces is that things are not always what they appear to be. The air discharge can find a way around lots of apparent insulation to find the nearest conductor and insert all sorts of havoc in the system. - Bill Indecision may or may not be the proble

Re: [PSES] EN61326-1: 2006

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi All, The committee chair for that group would be Bernd Jaekel of Seimens. I've copied him on your question. Regards, Ken Wyatt Technical Services, LLC 56 Aspen Dr. Woodland Park, CO 80863 Email: k...@emc-seminars.com Web: www.emc-seminars.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethwyat

Fw: [PSES] ESD testing

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, Is it necessary to apply both air & contact discharges to equipment? I read it as: the contact discharge is applied to the conductive surface and the air discharge is applied to non-conductive surfaces. I also know that I have yet to test air discharge without inadvertently discharging to

Re: EN61326-1: 2006

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <2AA8A4298DECF8469C66C8F3A2B95892012110BA@GB02QEX01PEDV27.rmhost1.local>, dated Mon, 18 May 2009, "Gordon,Ian" writes: >I couldn't work out how to contact the IEC committee so sent a general >enquiry. I did the same with BSI. If someone knows how to contact the >committees directl

Re: EN61326-1: 2006

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <4a114fa4.2020...@meadtest.com>, dated Mon, 18 May 2009, MIke Hurley writes: >I agree it probably is wrong, but it was the same in the earlier 1997 >edition!   I guess this is one for John to pass on to the relevant >committee If you mean me, I am not specially in contact with the

RE: EN61326-1: 2006

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Mike (& John) I couldn't work out how to contact the IEC committee so sent a general enquiry. I did the same with BSI. If someone knows how to contact the committees directly please let me know. Ian Gordon From: MIke Hurley [mailto:mikehur...@meadtest.com]

Re: EN61326-1: 2006

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, I agree it probably is wrong, but it was the same in the earlier 1997 edition! I guess this is one for John to pass on to the relevant committee Mike Hurley Gordon,Ian wrote: All There seems to be a typographical error in Table 3 of the above standard where the l

RE: ESD testing

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, Have you checked the relevant product standard for your application? 61000 series is really only a description of test setup and methodology. The product standard would have the actual specifications. For example, EN55024 for ITE Contact discharge is usually the preferred method of dischar

Re: ESD testing

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <2AA8A4298DECF8469C66C8F3A2B9589201211031@GB02QEX01PEDV27.rmhost1.local>, dated Mon, 18 May 2009, "Gordon,Ian" writes: >Is it necessary to apply both air & contact discharges to equipment >given the following?: > >Looking at 61000-4-2 I believe the critical part is the first paragr

EN61326-1: 2006

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All There seems to be a typographical error in Table 3 of the above standard where the levels specified for ESD testing in controlled environments are given as 4kV/8kV (air/contact). However the level for the same test given in Table 1 which refers to Basic Immunity Requirements is only 4kV/4kV (ai

ESD testing

2009-05-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All Is it necessary to apply both air & contact discharges to equipment given the following?: Looking at 61000-4-2 I believe the critical part is the first paragraph of section 7 ".Test set-up". .application of discharges to the EUT in the following manner: a) contact discharge to the condu