Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom Center Locations

2013-08-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1376519590.33659.yahoomail...@web161404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, dated Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Marko Radojicic radojic...@yahoo.com writes: Has anyone seen a list or a description of where Telecom Central Offices with -60Vdc (nominal) battery plants are located? It should be possible to

[PSES] ANSI Z 535 in Canada

2013-08-15 Thread Michael Loerzer
Hello, Are the standards ANSI Z 535.4 „Standard for Product Safety Signs and Labels“ and Z 535.6 “Product Safety Information in Product Manuals, Instructions, and Other Collateral Materials” accepted in Canada? If not, does anybody know similar CSA standards? Best regards Dipl.-Ing.

Re: [PSES] ANSI Z 535 in Canada

2013-08-15 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
We use Z535.4 for all of our warnings labels that are used in USA and Canada, and I know of no problems that we've ever had with them. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: Michael Loerzer loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent:

Re: [PSES] ANSI Z 535 in Canada

2013-08-15 Thread Douglas Nix
There is no Canadian equivalent for product safety signs and warnings. CSA Z432 calls out CSA Z321, but the scope of that standard specifically excludes its use with products. Based on that, most Canadian companies use either the ANSI Z535 standards, the International standards or a combination

Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom Center Locations

2013-08-15 Thread Marko Radojicic
Hi Joe, Tom, Thanks! I was not aware of ETS 300 001. Since this standard is available free of charge (thanks ETSI), I could quickly review.  It appears that you are getting information from Table 1.5.1, Column Vf, with any maximum level that equals 60V. If that is not correct, please let me

[PSES] ErP IM Reg 1275 Standby Off mode power

2013-08-15 Thread Scott Xe
In this regulation, it covers IT equipment. Routers and Access Points for household are intended for switching on 24/7. I see no power on/off switch and standby in such equipment. Is it exempted from this regulation? If so, where is the statement to provide such exemption? Thanks and regards,

Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom Center Locations

2013-08-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1376584007.22394.yahoomail...@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, dated Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Marko Radojicic radojic...@yahoo.com writes: What is the best way to submit a question to ETSI?  You may have to try several ways to contact the best person. The Committees and Portals page will

Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom Center Locations

2013-08-15 Thread Joe Randolph
Hi Marko: It is important to understand that over time, a variety of different central offices were installed in various countries, and these sometime used different battery voltages. The entries in Table 1.5.1 in ETS 300 001 represent what each country reported having in service at the time the

Re: [PSES] ErP IM Reg 1275 Standby Off mode power

2013-08-15 Thread Gartman, W. Richard
Just to add to this question, are access points sold to schools classified as household use? And what if the access point is USB powered for a computer? Is it still in scope? W. Richard Gartman, MS, CSP Product Stewardship Manager Texas Instruments, Education Technology 13532 N Central

Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom Center Locations

2013-08-15 Thread Marko Radojicic
Hi Joe, Thanks for the clarification. I wouldn't want to be living on one of those long loop / double battery lines. Sounds dangerous! My original intent was to understand the safety implications exposures of -60V battery plant feeds. Agree with the TNV rating although our experience has

Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom Center Locations

2013-08-15 Thread Joe Randolph
Hi Marko: Conventional analog phone lines are typically classified as TNV-3. They get this classification because they run outside (exposed to lightning) *and* they have AC power ringing signals on them. If the lines run outside but do not carry AC power ringing signals, they typically qualify

Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom Center Locations

2013-08-15 Thread Tom Smith
As Joe indicates, higher than normal voltages can exist on long loops. Even in Canada voltage could go up to -105Vdc on a very long loop. Regards, Tom Smith, P.Eng Principal Engineer TJS Technical Services Inc. Tel: +1 403-612-6664 Email: mailto:tsm...@tjstechnical.com

Re: [PSES] -60Vdc Telecom Center Locations

2013-08-15 Thread Marko Radojicic
Hi Joe, Totally agree that telecom interface lines are usually TNV-3. I am looking at the other end of the system however - the battery input to the network element which are classified as TNV-2, agreed? CO Battery feeds:  - Run inside for relatively short lengths compared to interface lines,