Re: [PSES] Varistor and Earthing

2014-06-20 Thread Anthony Thomson
Hi Alex, You provide little information about the equipment, the circuit that the varistor is protecting and your reason for wanting to remove it. The varistor is likely to be protecting against high voltage surges and transientsbetween Live-Neutral, Live-Earth, Neutral-Earth, Signal/Comms

[PSES] EN-61000-6-4

2014-06-20 Thread McCallum, Andy
All Why are telecommunications port emissions so much higher than AC power ports? Regards Andy - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message

Re: [PSES] Varistor and Earthing

2014-06-20 Thread Alexey Musin
Hi Tony, The original design authority put it there for good reason and it should not be removed without understanding why it is there. Varistors are usually not superfluous in their application.  You're absolutely right. This varistor was populated for the surge protection. Why do you want

Re: [PSES] Varistor and Earthing

2014-06-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1403257835.918718...@m.mail.ru, dated Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Alexey Musin amu...@inbox.ru writes: One thing I keep in mind in all of it. The varistor can leak, and the leakage current may be dangerous for the end users. So I have a lot of doubts about safety of this circuitry. Which

Re: [PSES] Varistor and Earthing

2014-06-20 Thread Alexey Musin
Hi, John! So I have a lot of doubts about safety of this circuitry. Which standard applies to the product? Some standards require a gas discharge tube (GDT) in series with the MOV so that there is no leakage current. It's a mains power filter. It has a number of modules. One of these

Re: [PSES] Varistor and Earthing

2014-06-20 Thread Alexey Musin
Which standard applies to the product? Some standards require a gas discharge tube (GDT) in series with the MOV so that there is no leakage current. John, your info about that requirement is very useful. I did not know it. Could you tell what standards do contain the 'GDT+MOV' requirement?

Re: [PSES] Varistor and Earthing

2014-06-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1403262722.268906...@m.mail.ru, dated Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Alexey Musin amu...@inbox.ru writes: It's a mains power filter. It has a number of modules. One of these modules is an SPD (surge protection device). We've got a national standard, which is very similar to IEC 61643-1. I'm

Re: [PSES] Varistor and Earthing

2014-06-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1403263446.946685...@m.mail.ru, dated Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Alexey Musin amu...@inbox.ru writes: Which standard applies to the product? Some standards require a gas discharge tube (GDT) in series with the MOV so that there is no leakage current. John, your info about that requirement

Re: [PSES] EN-61000-6-4

2014-06-20 Thread Larry K. Stillings
Andy, Because to my knowledge, telecommunications ports have never caused any interference ;-) I'm sure someone else has a better answer. Larry K. Stillings Compliance Worldwide, Inc. Test Locally, Sell Globally and Launch Your Products Around the World! FCC - Wireless - Telecom - CE

Re: [PSES] Varistor and Earthing

2014-06-20 Thread Alexey Musin
John, IEC 60950-1 and IEC 62368. However, there is a problem. Both of these standards are not in a stable condition, so I'm not sure which version, edition or amendment to direct you to, and I don't have time at present to do a search. But there are people on this list who are much more

Re: [PSES] EN-61000-6-4

2014-06-20 Thread Joe Randolph
Hi Andy: I don't know the answer to your question, but it may be due to the fact that the distribution networks are quite different for telecom than for AC mains. While an AC mains outlet may be interconnected with several other residences nearby, a wireline telecom connection typically goes

Re: [PSES] Varistor and Earthing

2014-06-20 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Alex: You can't pass the dielectric withstand test with the varistor in place. On the other hand, with the varistor in place, the insulations supposedly won't see the transient overvoltages, so there is no need to test whether or not the insulations will withstand the transient

[PSES] Exhaust fume hood recommendations

2014-06-20 Thread Peter Tarver
Hi. I'm doing some research and am looking for recommendations for fume hoods for abnormal condition testing for my lab. I have an opportunity to have an exhaust to outside air system and am looking for your thoughts on what has worked well for you in terms of cfm capacity and which

Re: [PSES] Exhaust fume hood recommendations

2014-06-20 Thread Doug Powell
Peter, Other than looking for an approved device, look for recommended CFM ratings for the removal rates. Most home improvement stores have info on this. I purchased a squirrel cage fan which removed air quickly and is much quieter than a standard impeller type.  My preference would be exhaust

Re: [PSES] Exhaust fume hood recommendations

2014-06-20 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Peter: Since you will be doing flammability tests, see 5.1 of UL94 which has specifications for the fume hood. Note that during the flammability test, the hood is draft free while permitting normal thermal circulation of air past the specimen. Best regards, Rich -

Re: [PSES] Exhaust fume hood recommendations

2014-06-20 Thread Brian Oconnell
My current hood is stainless steel, with a large bubble in the exhaust tube just above the hood. The bubble has fans fore and aft. The bottom lip of the hood is used to hang Lexan 'shields' on three sides; this is because I wanted them removable so that I can also use the underlying bench as

Re: [PSES] Exhaust fume hood recommendations

2014-06-20 Thread Brian Oconnell
My boss immediately said that below was a Freudian slip. Should have been You would probably not get this additional functionality on the stuff intended for chem or bio labs. Brian -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014

Re: [PSES] EN-61000-6-4

2014-06-20 Thread Summers, Chet
Hello Andy- (Your question seems appropriate for a Friday, asked after the boss and most everyone else has left for the weekend and you're sitting at the workbench with eyes to the ceiling and palms up, waiting for the answer...) I think Joe has part of the answer, in that the impedance