Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Table 4B insulation temperatures

2015-04-13 Thread Charlie Blackham
Rich, and all the others Thank you for your comments. Some PSU manufacturers, such as XP Power, provide more detailed information on their websites covering: insulation material classes actually used where not Class A; higher loads with forced cooling; higher ambient when de-rated with 50% loa

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Table 4B insulation temperatures

2015-04-13 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Charlie: I'm looking at an enclosed IT system that contains a number of 3rd party power supplies and, under normal conditions, the ambient temperature around various wall-wart and "soap-on-a-rope" power supplies is a few degrees above their stated maximum ambient temperatures. T

[PSES] EMC software

2015-04-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
There have been previous questions to this listserv about EMC software. April issue of Incompliance magazine has article on evaluation of this stuff by Jack McFadden. The 'turtle' analogy is a bit strange, but the article does seem to cover most of what should be evaluated. In my little EMC-amat

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Table 4B insulation temperatures

2015-04-13 Thread John Woodgate
In message <001901d0762b$e4c01810$ae404830$@ieee.org>, dated Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Richard Nute writes: In view of our present knowledge and experience the author questions the advisability of loading transformers continuously up to the present A. I. E. E. limit of 105 deg. cent. hot spot and arg

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Table 4B insulation temperatures

2015-04-13 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Charlie: Where insulation is run above rated temperature, what is the degradation method and does it follow the Arrhenius equation? V. M. Montsinger published a paper on this topic. If you have access to IEEE Xplore, you can study his paper to see if it applies to your situati

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Table 4B insulation temperatures

2015-04-13 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Charlie: If the customer demo system is for the USA, it will have to be certified by an NRTL to be in compliance with OSHA regulations. You *may* be able to get an on-site one-of-a-kind certification that *might* ignore the thermal issues. Otherwise, SOL. Good luck, and best

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] 802.11a (5GHz WiFi) requires CE Alert sign, right?

2015-04-13 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Amund, I don't know if your question relates to the RED timing conversation below (which I think has been fully answered by Nick); or if this is a new question relating to the general requirements of the R&TTE Directive (and perhaps the RED in the future). So, I will assume it's a completel

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] 802.11a (5GHz WiFi) requires CE Alert sign, right?

2015-04-13 Thread John Woodgate
In message <002601d075bd$e2612370$a7236a50$@westin-emission.no>, dated Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Amund Westin writes: No, I wrote last July: The RED cannot be used until at least one EU Member State has adopted it into national law. I don't know whether this has happened yet. The Commission has now

[PSES] SV: [PSES] 802.11a (5GHz WiFi) requires CE Alert sign, right?

2015-04-13 Thread Amund Westin
Declaration of Conformity with an "alert sign" (class 2) included. Then should a Notified Body number be included in the DoC as well, right? #Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Hooper, Nick [mailto:nick.hoo...@ul.com] Sendt: 1. august 2014 15:20 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re