Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message <002a01d0d6c4$b0b96ae0$122c40a0$@cs.com>, dated Fri, 14 Aug 2015, Pete Perkins writes: It appears that the fun is just beginning. Do you, John, want to leave all the fun up to the young guys? Heaven forfend. I acknowledge your points, but the original enquiry was about CE

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread John Allen
A few weeks ago, there was an interesting presentation on this very subject at the TUV Sud Customer Day at Brooklands - so maybe someone from TUV Sud might like to comment? :-D John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread Pete Perkins
John, Thinking of all of this only in EMI terms seems way too limiting. There are examples of all kinds of electromechanical devices which interact readily with the body which could harbor unsuspecting hazards. There are already artificial limbs that are computer driven (even from brain w

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Without having re-read through all the relevant directives I'd think a non-powered device like a card chip or RFID tag would be exempt from any EMC Directives. RoHS, REACH, WEEE etc might apply and the CE mark is now required for RoHS. -Dave -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mai

Re: [PSES] EU EMC Harmonized Test Standards for High Intensity Discharge Lamp Ballasts

2015-08-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Fri, 14 Aug 2015, Grace Lin writes: Are EN 55015 and EN 61547 standards the appropriate standards for HID lamp ballasts per EU? Yes, they are. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message <001401d0d6bd$33ff5980$9bfe0c80$@cs.com>, dated Fri, 14 Aug 2015, Pete Perkins <0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> writes: Is the 'brite line' of separation because of the power supply (I think not) or at some other defined 'interface'. The question ought to be whether

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message <0387f3cf1dd8426389d13d04328ae...@sehste15d1be4.hs20.net>, dated Fri, 14 Aug 2015, Charlie Blackham writes: RFID and other tags are apparatus under the R&TTE directive, but the initial placing on the market, and requirement for CE marking, is in the tag manufacturer and not on the

[PSES] EU EMC Harmonized Test Standards for High Intensity Discharge Lamp Ballasts

2015-08-14 Thread Grace Lin
Dear Members, Are EN 55015 and EN 61547 standards the appropriate standards for HID lamp ballasts per EU? Please advise. Thank you very much. Best regards, Grace Lin - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Soci

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread Pete Perkins
John, A good Friday discussion... Altho this seems like a simplistic electronic equipment, the same question needs to be raised with regard to wearable electronics. The sophistication of these electronic systems is quite high and the complexity will continue to grow.

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread Paasche, Dieter
Could that principle apply to USB key's too? I see some of them have CE mark others not. Dieter Paasche Advanced Product Developer, Electrical CHRISTIE 809 Wellington Street North Kitchener, ON N2G 4Y7 Phone: 519-744-8005 ext.7211 www.christiedigital.com This e-mail message (including attachme

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread Charlie Blackham
John RFID and other tags are apparatus under the R&TTE directive, but the initial placing on the market, and requirement for CE marking, is in the tag manufacturer and not on the person issuing the card. There is an R&TTE "interpretation" covering this on the Europa website. Regards Charlie S

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message <04cab9802ba27a409548dd47de1da7efd342a72...@slomailprd01.polycom.com>, dated Fri, 14 Aug 2015, "Pearson, John" writes: Should a Credit Card carry the CE mark Chip and pin along with NFC Like a digital watch, it's regarded as 'EMC benign', so no EMC test and no CE mark. -- OOO

[PSES] Friday night conundrum

2015-08-14 Thread Pearson, John
Should a Credit Card carry the CE mark Chip and pin along with NFC Discuss? John Pearson, Senior Director, Corporate Product Compliance Polycom (UK) Ltd. |Singleton Court Business Centre Wonastow Road Ind. Est., Monmouth, NP255JA, United Kingdom | T: +44 1753 723165 | M: +44 7968 064105 - --