Re: [PSES] Best design practices to keep CM currents off a USB 2/3 cable given an unshielded enclosure?

2015-09-10 Thread Brent DeWitt
Interesting question and of interest to many of us Ken. My thoughts: - A choke between board ground and the shield isn't really desirable. All it does is create a frequency dependent floating shield. It becomes another high Q resonant element in the radiation system driven by any co

Re: [PSES] Best design practices to keep CM currents off a USB 2/3 cable given an unshielded enclosure?

2015-09-10 Thread Kim, Ben
Hi Ken, This is a tough question to answer since the coupling mechanism is different product by product in reality. As you mentioned it is typical to tie down USB connector shell to the digital return plane, and I think that is the best option. Of course the cable shield could act as antenna if

Re: [PSES] Best design practices to keep CM currents off a USB 2/3 cable given an unshielded enclosure?

2015-09-10 Thread John Woodgate
In message <4a100c15-770c-4021-aea8-f7f2a9169...@emc-seminars.com>, dated Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Ken Wyatt writes: Typically, the USB connector shield is soldered directly to the digital return plane. Is isolating the connector ground from the digital return plane and inserting a ferrite bead betw

[PSES] Best design practices to keep CM currents off a USB 2/3 cable given an unshielded enclosure?

2015-09-10 Thread Ken Wyatt
Hi All, It seems I'm always running into client products with USB 2.0 (or 3.0) connectors mounted on circuit boards that are enclosed within unshielded cases. I understand that CM chokes can be added to the data lines. However, given a circuit board with common-mode noise running all around, th

Re: [PSES] requirement for spacings

2015-09-10 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Thu, 10 Sep 2015, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Bo=B9tjan_Glavi=E8?= writes: Therefore I am a bit confused what should we consider for determination of working voltage. Is it rated voltage (marked on the unit) or we need to consider also tolerances or even short-term voltage? Rated vol