Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

You are correct. The NESC is analogous to the NEC, where the NESC is for everything "behind the meter". Utility operators use this as well as NERC requirements. Best, Doug

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

And not to confuse the issue even more, but then there is the N.E.S.C. - National Electrical Safety Code (or nowadays ANSI Standard C2) published by IEEE. Adopted in most states in some fashion, except for California which does its own thing. I think this one is primarily aimed at utilities tho

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Correct, National Electric Code is pro forma NFPA70, or at least per administrative laws of each U.S. state. But the reader should understand that there are state and municipal regulations that also specifically and formally refer to NFPA79 and NFPA99 as national building codes. And the NFPA

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

NEC is specifically NFPA 70, otherwise known as the National Electrical Code. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Brian O'ConnellTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: July 25, 2016 at 7:26 PMSubject: Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US By 'NEC", will assume th

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

By 'NEC", will assume that the reference is something like NFPA70 or 79. There are, as we all know, many other elements of NFPA construction requirements . NFPAs can reference ANSI, IEC, NEMA, ASME, IEEE, and other standards; and many ANSI, NEMA, and IEEE standards reference one or more NFPA ele

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

And a predecessor company to Intertek (Electrical Testing Laboratories) was founded by Thomas Edison in 1896. -Dave From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 6:52 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Scott, et al, I believe that someone else in this group could write a better history of UL but I’ll provide a condensed version… With the introduction of electricity in the latter part of the 1800’s in the US there were no ‘rules of engagement’ in applicati

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Hello Scott, OSHA runs the NRTL program. It includes a list of Nationally Recognized Test Laboratories. Click on any one of the labs and it will show the testing standards that lab is recognized for. A pr

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

“Each NRTL has a scope of test standards that they are recognized for…” https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/ NRTL certification for OSHA purposes is limited to its scope of test standards. Check out your favorite NRTL for its OSHA test standards. We don’t yet know whether the NEC is l

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Hello all, I believe labeling/ listing first came into place as a response from insurance companies needing concise requirements defining fire hazards. Underwriters Laboratory did not come from a group of VC's that thought it was a cool name. Scott, the other- other Scott Sent from my iPhone

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

OK, now I’m going completely off topic, but here is my opinion. This is only my opinion and it does not necessarily reflect the opinion of my company or anybody else. I completely agree with Pete that consolidation is unlikely. Congressional leaders reward members of their caucus by giving them

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

John, et al, The WEB definition of NRTL is quite narrow. As we explained earlier, Labeling/Listing by a NRTL approved lab is an NEC concept which is administered by OSHA. The placement of this responsibility came upon OSHA not by legislation but by litigation when a tes

[PSES] Medical RFID immunity spec

Hi All, Is anyone aware of a test equipment solution to meet the requirements of AIM Global’s “MEDICAL ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND SYSTEM ELECTROMAGNETIC IMMUNITY TEST FOR EXPOSURE TO RADIO FREQUENCY IDENTIFICATION READERS"? I am try to determine what a lab might need in order to perform this tes

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Nice explanation Pete! Scott, et al - great questions! These and many other basic questions get answered at the Symposium in the Compliance 101 Track. Be sure to keep an eye out for announcements. For those who have knowledge to share, the call for papers for the 2017 Symposium is already

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

>From the WEB: NRTL Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratories, or NRTLs, are >third party organizations recognized by the Occupational Safety and Health >Administration (OSHA) under Federal code 29 CFR 1910.7 to provide product >safety testing and certification services for products used in the

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Scott, As a newcomer, you are quite perceptive at asking food questions. There has been some discussion of how the responsibilities are divided between jurisdictions in the US but there is one common thread in all of this. The US NEC (National Electric Co

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Hi Peter, Yes, I have got that feeling.  It is difficult to ask a manufacturer designing a product meeting US requirements.  It sounds no certain places to provide such information. What is the exact meaning of NRTL certification?  Is NRTL accredited laboratory in the US?  What can they

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Hi John, What is exact meaning of NRTL approved?  Is it a sample for type examination against applicable safety standard without production audits? What are the differences between A2LA and NRTL? From: "Tyra, John" Reply-To: "Tyra, John" Date: Monday, 25 July 2016 at 10:14 PM To: Su

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Scott, There has been quite a bit of discussion here on US requirements. As you can tell there is no ‘overall’ single US requirement that covers everything. The final say is locally for most instances; the local AHJ inspectors have local control. Local inspectors have acce

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Some states have legal requirements for electrical products to be NRTL approved From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 8:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US Hi Scott: For consumer and household products, compliance w