Re: [PSES] 10G base-T ethernet EMC test setup question

2016-09-09 Thread Regan Arndt
I remember taking a class from Professor Brian O'Connell. ;) (P.S. I sat in the front row). He said something of the following: 1. describe the end-use environment of your equipment. 2. specify the EMC standards that will be scoped for your equipment. 3. describe how the component or assembly wil

[PSES] Morse the pity!

2016-09-09 Thread John Woodgate
I was astonished to see in the Magazine (Vol 5,Quarter 2) the interpretations of the Morse distress signals 'CQD' as 'Come Quick, Danger' and '...---...' as 'Save Our Ship'. We might expect that in a newspaper, but not, I feel, in an IEEE publication. I am not a Morse expert, but I know that 'CQ

Re: [PSES] Circuit board component compliance (UL60730-1)

2016-09-09 Thread Brian O'Connell
Also, forgot to add that the controls standard references IEC60384-16 and -17, but unlike -14, these standards do not scope protection from electric shock, and mostly scope and focus on the environmental (electrical, mechanical, physical) requirements covered in general (-1) standard. Brian --

Re: [PSES] EU OJ today

2016-09-09 Thread Ronald Pickard
To all, FYI. In the EU OJ today (see link below), there were four (4) harmonized standards lists published relating to 4 directives. Directives: 2006/42/EC, 89/686/EEC, 2014/53/EU (still very abbreviated), 2013/53/EU http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=OJ:C:2016:332:TOC Best re

Re: [PSES] Circuit board component compliance (UL60730-1)

2016-09-09 Thread Konnor Buxton
Thankfully no, all the safeties are done by mechanical means; pressure switches and bi-metal thermostats. The controls designer wanted to avoid any safety functions contained in the control board. As far as the product safety for the heat pump we fall under UL1995 (Heating and Cooling Equipment)

Re: [PSES] Circuit board component compliance (UL60730-1)

2016-09-09 Thread Brian O'Connell
Would there be a class B or C control function lurking in the shadows for your board? Brian -Original Message- From: Konnor Buxton [mailto:konn...@aaon.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 9:02 AM To: Brian O'Connell; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Circuit board component comp

Re: [PSES] Circuit board component compliance (UL60730-1)

2016-09-09 Thread Konnor Buxton
1. End use is to control a heat pump mounted in the building interstitial space and is enclosed in an integrated control cabinet. 2. Primary standard is UL60730-1(Automatic Electrical Controls for Household and Similar Use) with some cross over into part 2-6 (Particular Requirements for Automa

Re: [PSES] Circuit board component compliance (UL60730-1)

2016-09-09 Thread Brian O'Connell
Today's class is asking questions among a tribe of senior subversives. 1. describe the end-use environment of your equipment. 2. specify the product safety and/or EMC standards that will be scoped for your equipment. 3. describe how the component or assembly will be used in your equipment. 4. des

[PSES] Circuit board component compliance (UL60730-1)

2016-09-09 Thread Konnor Buxton
Happy Friday all, Our listing agency (ETL) has requested a component list including file numbers, which has been pretty standard practice when listing our other products (commercial HVAC) however I have been struggling to find listings (UL/CSA) for inductors and capacitors for a circuit board p

[PSES] 10G base-T ethernet EMC test setup question

2016-09-09 Thread Tesla
Hi, EMC experts We are doing 10G base-T ethernet reference design for the test chip. My first task is to do radiated emission test. I have two very basic questions for the setup: 1 How long CAT-6 ether net cable should be attached to the DUT when doing emission test? in the actual application,