Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

2016-10-20 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
We are all used to that odor, we work with standards right ? They are "expired" before first print. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen Approvals manager + ce marking of electrical/electronic equipment + Independent

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

2016-10-20 Thread John Woodgate
Now Paul Lovell is on the case, he may well be able to ask for all updates to be made available to EMC-PSTC. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent.

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

2016-10-20 Thread Pete Perkins
John, et al, Just remember that this is a dynamic document and any circulated version will, like fish left lying around, age rather quickly and leave an unpleasant odor behind. The up-to-date version remains within the TC 108 pile of records. :>)

Re: [PSES] CE for military aeronautical product

2016-10-20 Thread Cortland Richmond
On 10/19/2016 9:36 PM, Ed Price wrote: The customer is king, whatever he wants (subject to his agreement to pay for), he can demand, and if you want the sale, you will comply Bingo. You win the prize. I've been surprised, sometimes, after working to beat down compliance problems, to be told

Re: [PSES] CE for military aeronautical product

2016-10-20 Thread John Allen
Ed My own UK experiences pretty much mirrored yours as laid out below, and I would add that many RFQs also showed considerable signs of having been boiler-plated from other older ones with no understanding of what some of the currently stated "requirements" actually meant or implied - and thus

Re: [PSES] CE for military aeronautical product

2016-10-20 Thread Amund Westin
The customers have been asked and the answers are very general .." It shall be CE marked". Any details about what the CE should consist of is not possible to get. First, military product (in EU) shall be CE marked. Of course, some exception exists, but generally CE applies. But you can not CE

Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for EMC testing purposes

2016-10-20 Thread john Allen
Taking John W’s point about the “real difference” between Europe and the Americas, one additional and practical issue should be remembered: in the former region the residential and “industrial” locations (in the broadest sense of the word) are often much more closely co-sited than in the

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] IEC 62368-1

2016-10-20 Thread John Woodgate
It's only 16 kB, so it's not size that is the problem. The copy-and paste version came through to me. This may help: Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files,