Re: [PSES] IEC 62133 Question

2017-07-07 Thread Adam Dixon
It's not my area of expertise, but here's one application guide that does differentiate between tab attachment methods with regard to potential cell damage recommending welding over soldering: http://data.energizer.com/pdfs/lithiuml91l92_appman.pdf. None of the welding methods articles that I have

Re: [PSES] FCC testing of intentional vs unintentional radiators

2017-07-07 Thread Paolo Roncone
Hello Michael, Thanks for the quick feedback. So, based on it seems my interpretation is more conservative, but less (not more) right! Just to make sure we are on the same page, the subject of my query is just EMC emissions testing, not the radio tests that you mention (conducted antenna port test

Re: [PSES] FCC testing of intentional vs unintentional radiators

2017-07-07 Thread Michael Derby
Hello, I have added some comments below in red text….. Michael. From: Paolo Roncone [mailto:paoloc...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 July 2017 13:44 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FCC testing of intentional vs unintentional radiators Dear EMC & Radio experts, I have a c

[PSES] FCC testing of intentional vs unintentional radiators

2017-07-07 Thread Paolo Roncone
Dear EMC & Radio experts, I have a couple of questions about FCC compliance testing of devices with radio modules. If a device has a built-in radio module, that is already FCC tested/certified, how must this device be tested ? Here below two interpretations that came up within our company: A) the

Re: [PSES] IEC 62133 Question

2017-07-07 Thread John Woodgate
I think the OP means that he welds the product's terminals to the battery tabs. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. -Original Message- From: Leber, Jody (Suwanee) [mailto:jody.

Re: [PSES] IEC 62133 Question

2017-07-07 Thread Leber, Jody (Suwanee)
Hi Kevin, I am having trouble understanding your situation. Is it a cell or battery? What do you mean by new product? Was it somehow approved with another product? Welding tabs to a cell would have no impact on the cell approval and is the normal way of making the connection. Best Regards,

Re: [PSES] IEC 62133 Question

2017-07-07 Thread John Woodgate
Since the battery might have been exposed to excessive temperature, I would say that it does need to be tested. Also, if it was electrically welded, it might have been exposed to stray currents and/or powerful magnetic fields, both of which could cause damage. Why weld? Consult the battery manufac

[PSES] IEC 62133 Question

2017-07-07 Thread Kevin.Richardson
I think I know the answer but I was wondering if the battery specialists among us could advise if a battery that has already been issued with a certificate of compliance to IEC 62133 would require retesting/recertification if the terminals of a new product it is used in are welded to the cell? Tha