[PSES] EN 55035

2018-02-19 Thread itl-emc user group
Hi I saw that EN 55035 is listed in the OJ list of Harmonised Standards for the RED. Any thoughts regarding the EMCD since no new list of harmonised standards has been published for the EMCD since 2016. Regards, David Shidlowsky | Technical Reviewer Address 1 Bat-Sheva St. LOD 7120101 Israel Te

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread Richard Nute
Hi John: Depends on what limits are set for insulation resistance and electric strength current. For example, assume the insulation resistance limit is 100 megohms and the measured insulation resistance is 10 megohms. Failure. If the electric strength test is 3,000 volts, the curr

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread Brian O'Connell
IR and D/EW are affected differently by capacitance, tracking, and other things. IR can be both qualitative and quantitative; that is, a measurement of the property of the insulator, as the test conditions and levels are all defined. IR is typically done within the rated or 'normal' operating co

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread John Woodgate
Hello, Rich. This puzzles me: Or, it can fail the insulation resistance measurement yet pass the dielectric strength measurement. how can that happen? John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-02-19 21:53, Richard Nute wrote: O

[PSES] Doug Smith's second teaser : THE ANSWER

2018-02-19 Thread Doug Smith
Hi Paolo and the group, It turns out I did reply to the SI-List but either not to this list or in html mode and it got rejected. It takes me more effort to reply to this group as I have to reconfigure my email program to use this list in 1970s style text mode and then back again for the rest of

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Scott: Analog resistance measuring equipment puts a known voltage across an unknown resistance and measures current (the meter is calibrated in ohms). It is an implementation of Ohm’s Law. Measuring high resistances, e.g. more than 10 megohms, requires a higher voltage to get enou

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread John Woodgate
I think that wood was discontinued a very long time ago. But other materials  were certainly hygroscopic. Military-grade ebonite, used for mechanical applications,  was polished with tin foil at one time, which rather impaired its insulating qualities. Also, creepage and surface contamination w

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv, Gert Gremmen
As far as I understand, this requirement was needed in the time that insulation materials might have hygroscopic properties. Insulation materials as wood were common in the past. If they were not suitably treated, in humid circumstances insulation might drop to unacceptable levels. Ger

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread John Woodgate
The flash test is necessary because there are high-voltage pulses on the electricity supply caused by switching operations and distant lightning. It is very likely that a product that fails the insulation resistance test would fail the high-voltage test as well.  But it is not inevitable; a 1.8

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread Scott Xe
John, I almost forgot the Megger gear that I tried it once in the lab when I studied radio engineering.  Thereafter I am using battery-operated tester and now more and more multi-purpose testers including it into one unit. The main reason why I raised this query is that the flash test giv

Re: [PSES] Doug Smith's second teaser

2018-02-19 Thread Mark Hone
I’d like to second John’s query, as I haven’t seen the explanation either. If it has been posted, are EMC-PSTC postings being lost somewhere? I have checked our company spam filters! Regards, Mark From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: 08 February 2018 14:15 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread John Woodgate
The test is very old, and pre-dates the high-voltage test by very many years. You mentioned 'Megger' in your other post, yes, that was how it was done. (A Megger (brand name) was/is a type of magneto with an ohmmeter attached. The stable output voltage required for the ohmmeter is achieved by a

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread Scott Xe
Thanks for your sharing experience!  Did you conduct the flash test that normally is over 1,250 Vac by that time?  Probably a megger tester is more portable for onsite testing than flash test as an alternative. Scott From: Date: Monday, 19 February 2018 at 2:50 PM To: 'Scott Xe' , Su