Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-20 Thread Kevin Robinson
Clause 2 under the definition for “acceptable” can only be used under specific conditions, specifically if no NRTL has the capability to test and certify the equipment. In such cases, the equipment/installation would be acceptable to OSHA if a state/federal agency determined it was safe. The r

Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-20 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Regan: Yes, if that piece of equipment is not within any NRTL purview. Best regards, Rich From: Regan Arndt Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 1:22 PM To: Richard Nute Cc: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification Hi Rich. If you are

Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-20 Thread Regan Arndt
Hi Rich. If you are referring to clause (2): *(2) With respect to an installation or equipment of a kind that no nationally recognized testing laboratory accepts, certifies, lists, labels, or determines to be safe, if it is inspected or tested by another Federal agency, or by a State, municipal,

Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-20 Thread Wiseman, Joshua
Having worked for an NRTL in the past and with a few manufacturers, I can attest to Dave’s comment. Generally, the manufacturer is responsible for the field inspection of the equipment. Several of the major NRTL’s in the US have a program in place for this process. Josh Joshua Wiseman System

Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-20 Thread David Nyffenegger
Or typically the government organization, the AHJ, simply accepts the field inspection label applied by NRTL or other recognized entity. The owner/operator of the product is ultimately responsible for the inspection. I’ve never known a government organization to hire a NRTL for field inspection,

Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-20 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Regan: While field inspection is not part of OSHA's NRTL program, OSHA rules allow another government (federal, state, local) organization to determine compliance with the NEC. See: https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/1910/1910.399 I would guess that such