Brian -- My gut is that it's reasonable to expect a UL/CSA marking on a 3-phase 460 VAC motor, but that listings for pumps are quite a bit rarer.
Are there unique hazards associated with the pump should it fail? If not, I'd concentrate on the motor marking. Contact me off this list-serve if you'd like to discuss more. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC Product Safety Consulting > On 06/30/2022 2:00 PM Brian Kunde <bkundew...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I am confused and frustrated. We have an industrial product that > includes a small water recirculation tank which includes a motor/pump > assembly that is powered by 230V/360V/460Vac 3-phase. Our NRTL inspectors > says this pump assembly must have UL, CSA, or equivalent. Here is a website > that shows the type of assembly we are looking for: > > https://www.graymills.com/fm-series.html > > The trouble is, Graymills, Granger, Dayton, etc. doesn't provide NRTL > markings on the pumps that meet our functional requirements. They all say > that most of their customers do not require these marks so they only offer a > few models that do. > > How can this be? Am I missing something? Some say that manufacturers can > get the pumps approved as part of a certification of the entire machine, but > how can the pump be evaluated by a system integrator who doesn't manufacture > the pump, nor has any constructional information? Wouldn't it HAVE to be > done by the motor manufacturer? > > I keep asking our NRTL Field Inspector if he would accept such a product > and the answer is no. Our CSA inspector also says no; it must have CSA or > equivalent on the motor and/or motor/pump assembly. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > The Other Brian > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > <emc-p...@ieee.org mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org > > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org > > David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com mailto:dhe...@gmail.com > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: > https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> _________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1