Brian --

My gut is that it's reasonable to expect a UL/CSA marking on a 3-phase 460 VAC 
motor, but that listings for pumps are quite a bit rarer.

Are there unique hazards associated with the pump should it fail? If not, I'd 
concentrate on the motor marking.

Contact me off this list-serve if you'd like to discuss more.

Mike Sherman
Sherman PSC LLC
Product Safety Consulting

>     On 06/30/2022 2:00 PM Brian Kunde <bkundew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I am confused and frustrated.  We have an industrial product that 
> includes a small water recirculation tank which includes a motor/pump 
> assembly that is powered by 230V/360V/460Vac 3-phase.  Our NRTL inspectors 
> says this pump assembly must have UL, CSA, or equivalent. Here is a website 
> that shows the type of assembly we are looking for:
> 
>     https://www.graymills.com/fm-series.html
> 
>     The trouble is, Graymills, Granger, Dayton, etc. doesn't provide NRTL 
> markings on the pumps that meet our functional requirements.  They all say 
> that most of their customers do not require these marks so they only offer a 
> few models that do.  
> 
>     How can this be? Am I missing something?  Some say that manufacturers can 
> get the pumps approved as part of a certification of the entire machine, but 
> how can the pump be evaluated by a system integrator who doesn't manufacture 
> the pump, nor has any constructional information?  Wouldn't it HAVE to be 
> done by the motor manufacturer?  
> 
>     I keep asking our NRTL Field Inspector if he would accept such a product 
> and the answer is no.  Our CSA inspector also says no; it must have CSA or 
> equivalent on the motor and/or motor/pump assembly.  
> 
>     Any suggestions?  
> 
>     Thanks,
>     The Other Brian
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