Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-12 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012 On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 13:18:15 +0100, McCallum, Andy andy.mccal...@mottmac.com wrote: But the difference is only 2dB - I don't see the point. Sorry, I forgot of thinking of vehicle limits in 2004/104/EC. For the 2004/104

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-12 Thread T.Sato
] Verzonden: woensdag 11 juni 2014 23:43 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012 On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 13:18:15 +0100, McCallum, Andy andy.mccal...@mottmac.com wrote: But the difference is only 2dB - I don't see the point

[PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread McCallum, Andy
All Can anyone explain the difference in the limits between the directive and EN 55012. Regards Andy - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list,

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread T.Sato
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:28:44 +0100, McCallum, Andy andy.mccal...@mottmac.com wrote: Can anyone explain the difference in the limits between the directive and EN 55012. EN 55012 is intended to protect off-board receivers, and 2004/104/EC (and ECE R10, CISPR 25, and OEM standards) are

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread McCallum, Andy
Hi Tom But the difference is only 2dB - I don't see the point. Regards Andy -Original Message- From: T.Sato [mailto:vef00...@nifty.ne.jp] Sent: 11 June 2014 13:09 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012 On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message beda313b3e2b304ca6a08001bd61c9c00186e49...@ukmb01.mottmac.group.int, dated Wed, 11 Jun 2014, McCallum, Andy andy.mccal...@mottmac.com writes: But the difference is only 2dB - I don't see the point. Politics. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread Luke Turnbull
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012 On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:28:44 +0100, McCallum, Andy andy.mccal...@mottmac.com wrote: Can anyone explain the difference in the limits between the directive and EN 55012. EN 55012 is intended to protect off-board

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread Luke Turnbull
with people who know the story - chapter and verse. Luke Turnbull -Original Message- From: McCallum, Andy [mailto:andy.mccal...@mottmac.com] Sent: 11 June 2014 13:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012 Hi Tom But the difference

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread McCallum, Andy
[mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 11 June 2014 13:39 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012 In message beda313b3e2b304ca6a08001bd61c9c00186e49...@ukmb01.mottmac.group.int, dated Wed, 11 Jun 2014, McCallum, Andy andy.mccal...@mottmac.com

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message beda313b3e2b304ca6a08001bd61c9c00186e49...@ukmb01.mottmac.group.int, dated Wed, 11 Jun 2014, McCallum, Andy andy.mccal...@mottmac.com writes: Politics ? Oh dear (or words to that affect) So as 55012 is harmonised under the EMC directive you could in theory meet that directive but

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message er323xh71fmtf...@jmwa.demon.co.uk, dated Wed, 11 Jun 2014, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk writes: No: their scopes are, or should be, mutually exclusive. Should be (perhaps) but aren't. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Quid faciamus nisi

Re: [PSES] Automotive Directive 2004/104/EC and EN 55012

2014-06-11 Thread T.Sato
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 13:18:15 +0100, McCallum, Andy andy.mccal...@mottmac.com wrote: But the difference is only 2dB - I don't see the point. Sorry, I forgot of thinking of vehicle limits in 2004/104/EC. For the 2004/104/EC vehicle narrow band limits which is 2 dB lower than that of EN 55012,