Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-18 Thread Brian Oconnell
Brian, I have forwarded your message to the sales director and production manager. They, and others, oft accuse me of intransigent (but typically use many additional descriptive terms). We all make mistakes, but they must be recoverable and not fatal. Component power supplies - you get what you p

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-18 Thread Kunde, Brian
If your company makes a device or component that is used within your customer's device or system I highly recommend you design and test your product for the best EMC performance you can within reason. Our company purchases many components, modules, power supplies, controllers, etc. from other c

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-16 Thread John Woodgate
In message <4fdd0939.9040...@earthlink.net>, dated Sat, 16 Jun 2012, Cortland Richmond writes: I am not at all certain saying "certification is void if used with noncompiant power sources" is good enough legally -- and we know it's not *factually* given CE + CE ?CE. Why is it not good enoug

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-16 Thread Chris Wells
Bob Yes I should have tried that approach. Thanks for pointing it out. I do have another opportunity in a few months. Chris Wells _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Bob Richards Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:45 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.OR

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-16 Thread Cortland Richmond
One cannot take responsibility for customer supplied equipment unless he controls what the customer buys. I am not at all certain saying "certification is void if used with noncompiant power sources" is good enough legally -- and we know it's not *factually* given CE + CE ?CE. Cortland Richmon

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-16 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Sat, 16 Jun 2012, Chris Wells writes: I have a 24VDC powered device that needs to meet CISPR 11. We planned to recommend a particular class B power supply with this device. However the noise from our device appears to be pushing through the power supply and limiting the co

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-16 Thread Bob Richards
I've had clients request testing the DC input just as we would for AC. It would seem to me that if you test the DC input and it passes, then there should be little question about compliance.   Bob R. --- On Sat, 6/16/12, Chris Wells wrote: From: Chris Wells Subject: RE: CISPR 11 Question To

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-16 Thread Chris Wells
I am facing a similar issue: I have a 24VDC powered device that needs to meet CISPR 11. We planned to recommend a particular class B power supply with this device. However the noise from our device appears to be pushing through the power supply and limiting the combo to class A. The problem area i

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-15 Thread Kunde, Brian
I don't think conducted emissions on the 24V input would be required but CISPR 11 is a system test and should include the 24V power distribution system which I assume has an AC Mains input which would be tested for conducted emissions. The Other Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@i

Re: [PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message <043349c7d8e94e42a5a802d3c618cfd9afe...@dhrnasvxm05.danaher.org>, dated Fri, 15 Jun 2012, "Birdsall, Gail" writes: My question is whether conducted RF emissions on non mains ports is required or not for equipment connected to a 24V power distribution network by either EN61326-1 or

[PSES] CISPR 11 Question

2012-06-15 Thread Birdsall, Gail
Dear Industry Experts, Hach Company manufactures industrial test and measurement equipment and for the purpose of EMC testing we test to the EN 61326-1 EMC standard. This test standard specifies CISPR 11. The EN61326-1 standard simply states... The equipment shall be classified and respectiv