Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
Sylvae in aeternum manent. -Original Message- From: Chuck Seyboldt [mailto:seybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 July 2017 09:57 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24] Dear Scott: It doesn&#

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread John Woodgate
Woodgate Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24] Dear John: Good point, and I assumed a condition where the deficient clause was entirely deficient - any design solution in that clause creates a risk that is not compatible with the

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread Chuck Seyboldt
essage- From: Chuck Seyboldt [mailto:seybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 July 2017 09:57 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24] Dear Scott: It doesn't matter where, except for convenience or "luck" in finding the remark sho

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread John Woodgate
om: Chuck Seyboldt [mailto:seybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 July 2017 09:57 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24] Dear Scott: It doesn't matter where, except for convenience or "luck" in finding the remark should the need aris

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Chuck, Thanks for your views! I am convinced to put the additional standard under applicable standard(s) of DoC. Regards, Scott On 22/7/2017, 4:56 PM, "Chuck Seyboldt" wrote: Dear Scott: It doesn't matter where, except for convenience or "luck" in finding th

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread Chuck Seyboldt
Dear Scott: It doesn't matter where, except for convenience or "luck" in finding the remark should the need arise. In general, I structure the report to follow the statements on the face of the Declaration. In this case, I suggested declaring compliance with 60335-2-24 with exceptions. S

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Chuck, If we have to look after the additional concern in safety compliance, ie. fire risk for this case, should we put the compliance standard under the risk assessment of LVD or the applicable standards under LVD? Regards, Scott On 22/7/2017, 10:31 AM, "Scott Xe" wrote: Hi Chuck,

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread Scott Xe
gh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 July 2017 18:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24] Hi Chuck, Appreciate

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Chuck, Thanks for your good pointer! Regards, Scott On 22/7/2017, 1:23 AM, "Chuck Seyboldt" wrote: Dear Scott: It does. See Articles 13 and 14 of 2014/35/EU Regards, Chuck Seyboldt (207) 893-0352 (207) 838-4026 Cellular (800) 893-8142

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread John Woodgate
M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 July 2017 18:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24] Hi Chuck, Appreciate your good

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread Chuck Seyboldt
Dear Scott: It does. See Articles 13 and 14 of 2014/35/EU Regards, Chuck Seyboldt (207) 893-0352 (207) 838-4026 Cellular (800) 893-8142 Facsimile At 13:00 (-) on 17.07.21, Scott Xe wrote: Hi Chuck, Appreciate your good advice! In other directive, such as RED, if harmonised s

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Chuck, Appreciate your good advice! In other directive, such as RED, if harmonised standard is not available, relevant national or international standard can be used. Is there any reason for LVD not to have these options? Regards, Scott On 22/7/2017, 12:47 AM, "Chuck Seyboldt" wrote:

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread Scott Xe
ilto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 July 2017 17:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24] Hi Chuck, Thanks for your guidance! The source is useful to know the reason(s) of objection. It will leave the supplier how

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread Chuck Seyboldt
Dear Scott: I wouldn't worry much about market surveillance. What I've done in some cases is have the Declaration cite the standard mostly followed (even if not harmonized), and list qualifications or exceptions, etc. to make the market surveillance conformity assessment job easier. The

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread John Woodgate
! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 July 2017 17:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Chuck, Thanks for your guidance! The source is useful to know the reason(s) of objection. It will leave the supplier how to tackle those issues. How can the market surveillance determine the adequate level of acceptance? Regards, Scott On 20/7/2017, 10:49 PM, "Chuck Seyboldt" wrote:

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-20 Thread Ted Eckert
standard withdrawn [60335-2-24] Find the reason for the withdrawal, and adapt inspection to account for that. Even short of withdrawal, it is prudent to keep abreast of objections to standards. Formal Objection against EN 60335-2-24:2010 Household and similar electrical appliances

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-20 Thread Chuck Seyboldt
Find the reason for the withdrawal, and adapt inspection to account for that. Even short of withdrawal, it is prudent to keep abreast of objections to standards. Formal Objection against EN 60335-2-24:2010 Household and similar electrical appliances - Safety - Part 2-24: Particular requir