Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Douglas Smith
100 To: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven This isn't a particularly helpful contribution, but when I use my microwave (used co

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven One-half sine wave is 8/10 ms, and even that seems like a lot of hold-up time for an HV capacitor and several hundred Watts dissipated. Even at 8 ms, the time between depressing the switch and opening

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
Reply-To: Ed Price Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 15:09:57 -0700 To: Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Old microwave ovens (like the one from 1988) were electrically quite simple; a relay applied AC power to a step-up transformer, and the secondary output was grounded (one side) and

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Wyatt
I was wondering the same regarding “capacitor hold-up” keeping the magnetron working for up to a half sine. As for the radio astronomy frequency allocations, here is the internationally recognized list: http://www.astrosurf.com/luxorion/radioastro-frequencieslist.htm

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ed Price
before any pressure on the oven door gasket has been released. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Michael Derby Reply-To: Michael Derby Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 08:02:00 +0100 To: Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven This isn't a particularly helpful contributio

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
E.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Hmm -odd - It's not in my dictionary - or online! Best Regards Charles Grasso Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications (w) 303-706-5467 (c) 303-204-2974 (t) 3032042...@vtext.com (e) charles.gra...@echostar.com (e2) chasgra...

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
, 2015 12:34 PM To: 'Ken Javor'; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RE: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Sinicism - a word made up from Latin for Chinese (sinicus) and Greek for belief, ideology or style (ism). Meaning - a Chinese method or style extended meaning

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
Clever etymology, but incorrect, at least politically. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: dward > Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 12:34:04 -0700 > To: 'Ken Javor' , > Subject: RE: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven > > Sinicism - a word made up from Lat

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Grasso, Charles
to:dw...@pctestlab.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 1:34 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Sinicism - a word made up from Latin for Chinese (sinicus) and Greek for belief, ideology or style (ism). Meaning - a Chinese method or style extended me

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
e-mail or attachments(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 12:16 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven And I&#

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
And I'm not disappointed. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: John Woodgate > Reply-To: John Woodgate > Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 19:50:26 +0100 > To: > Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven > > In message <002e01d08f35$4068c0f0$c13a42d0$@pc

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message <002e01d08f35$4068c0f0$c13a42d0$@pctestlab.com>, dated Fri, 15 May 2015, dward writes: May your Sinicism not cause you to miss the good things in life. I'm not Chinese! And I'm not of the canine persuasion, which is what the word you aimed at originally alluded to. -- OOO - Own

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
I can't wait for the response to this post! Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: dward > Reply-To: dward > Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 10:33:26 -0700 > To: > Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven > > May your Sinicism not cause you to mi

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven In message <002701d08f2c$fbcc7d40$f36577c0$@pctestlab.com>, dated Fri, 15 May 2015, dward writes: >The fact that this seems an anomaly says the Bayesian probability is >satisfied by reason an

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message <002701d08f2c$fbcc7d40$f36577c0$@pctestlab.com>, dated Fri, 15 May 2015, dward writes: The fact that this seems an anomaly says the Bayesian probability is satisfied by reason and uniformity - that being, there are more satisfactorily operating devices than lemons. May you never

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Wyatt
has been released. > > Ken Javor > Phone: (256) 650-5261 > > >> From: Michael Derby >> Reply-To: Michael Derby >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 08:02:00 +0100 >> To: >> Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven >> >> This isn&

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 9:04 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven In message <001001d08f24$621e6c60$265b4520$@pctestlab.com>, dated Fri, 15 May 2015, dward

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message <001001d08f24$621e6c60$265b4520$@pctestlab.com>, dated Fri, 15 May 2015, dward writes: The solution to that is simple - get a new microwave but don't buy the same brand. :) What is the Bayesian probability that the new brand will be worse? (;-) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With bes

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread dward
, May 15, 2015 12:02 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven This isn't a particularly helpful contribution, but when I use my microwave (used correctly, with the door closed), my Bluetooth speaker completely stops working and any WiFi activ

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Ken Javor
(256) 650-5261 > From: Michael Derby > Reply-To: Michael Derby > Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 08:02:00 +0100 > To: > Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven > > This isn't a particularly helpful contribution, but when I use my microwave > (used correctly,

Re: [PSES] [External] Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Cortland Richmond
2015 8:55 AM >To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >Subject: Re: [PSES] [External] Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven > >IEC/EN 60335-2-25 and IEC/EN 60335-2-90 have limits on the radiation emitted >from the microwave with the door open. This includes testing with th

Re: [PSES] [External] Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E BIS
, nor do I know the history of the standard so there maybe something there too. Josh -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 5:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [External] Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message .com>, dated Thu, 14 May 2015, Brian Oconnell writes: Think that CISPR32 is supposed to address very short-term stuff, but since is not recurring and periodic, would a few hundred mSec affect test limits? CISPR 32 doesn't apply to microwave ovens: CISPR 11 applies. -- OOO - Own

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Derby
Michael. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 14 May 2015 23:42 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven In message <1f28.6030...@gmail.com>, dated Thu, 14 May 2015, Doug Powell writes:

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message <1f28.6030...@gmail.com>, dated Thu, 14 May 2015, Doug Powell writes: My question is this.  If the RF generated inside the oven does not stop prior to the opening of the RF seal on the door, which testing is responsible to identify this problem, EMC or the Safety testing Not

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Brian Oconnell
Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven Newsworthy indeed, but hardly something to self-promote through publication! And I would think that the

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Ken Javor
the seal. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: CR > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 19:21:42 -0400 > To: > Subject: Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven > > On 5/14/2015 6:58 PM, Ken Javor wrote: >> why doesn¹t the rf shut off when the door is

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread CR
On 5/14/2015 6:58 PM, Ken Javor wrote: why doesn’t the rf shut off when the door is opened? And a second one: why was it deemed worthy of publishing an article that a microwave oven interfered with data collection since 1988? It does, but probably not instantly. Just guessing, but ... A magn

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Ken Javor
: Doug Powell Reply-To: Doug Powell Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:18:16 -0600 To: Subject: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven All, Today Interference Technology published on their website, "Astronomers Discover 17-Year Interference Caused by Microwave Oven" L

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Brian Oconnell
Subject: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven All, Today Interference Technology published on their website, "Astronomers Discover 17-Year Interference Caused by Microwave Oven" Link: http://www.interferencetechnology.com/astronomers-discover-17-year-interference-caused-by-micr

[PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-14 Thread Doug Powell
All, Today Interference Technology published on their website, "Astronomers Discover 17-Year Interference Caused by Microwave Oven" Link: http://www.interferencetechnology.com/astronomers-discover-17-year-interference-caused-by-microwave-oven/?utm_source=itnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campai