Re: [PSES] test errors

2014-12-19 Thread Pearson, John
., Monmouth, NP255JA, United Kingdom | T: +44 1753 723165 | M: +44 7968 064105 From: dward [mailto:dw...@pctestlab.com] Sent: 18 December 2014 21:38 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] test errors I don’t think the original discussion is or was centered on testing ‘black boxes’ or even

Re: [PSES] test errors

2014-12-18 Thread Grasso, Charles
...@vtext.com (e) charles.gra...@echostar.com (e2) chasgra...@gmail.com From: dward [mailto:dw...@pctestlab.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:38 PM To: Grasso, Charles; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] test errors I don’t think the original discussion is or was centered on testing ‘black

Re: [PSES] test errors

2014-12-18 Thread dward
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] test errors Hello Brian – with regards to the “Top Secret” box. It is my understanding that the customer it responsible for assuring that their product is tested to the correct standard and the test lab is responsible for testing the delivered product

Re: [PSES] test errors

2014-12-18 Thread Grasso, Charles
...@lecotc.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:26 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] test errors Well said. I’m really enjoying this topic. Expecting customers to be Compliance Test experts would be nice, but a little like expecting people to have to be auto mechanics to be

Re: [PSES] test errors

2014-12-18 Thread CR
This is an organizational flaw similar to relying on ISO 9000 certification; unless day to day operations are monitored by staff, and performance is periodically audited by subject matter experts from the certifying agency, it is only an exercise in paperwork. Consider that EMC standards now

Re: [PSES] test errors

2014-12-18 Thread Ken Javor
Excellent point. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Ed Price Reply-To: Ed Price Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 04:57:43 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [PSES] test errors Doug: I took the liberty of severely editing you response, but I think the essence of your story is: ³someone who goes to labs with

Re: [PSES] test errors

2014-12-18 Thread Kunde, Brian
results. You may now return to your regularly scheduled program. This Other Brian From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:58 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] test errors Doug: I took the liberty of severely editing you response, but I

Re: [PSES] test errors

2014-12-18 Thread Ed Price
Doug: I took the liberty of severely editing you response, but I think the essence of your story is: “someone who goes to labs with no knowledge of how these tests are run are at a real disadvantage” I thought that the whole purpose of accreditation was to provide protection to the cus