Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-05 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear Experts, Our product is a USB device connected to the PC USB host and operates at 5 volts D.C supply provided by the host system. Both FCC & CE insists that conducted emission testing is required for this kind of devices, with emissions measured at the a.c input side. Is it necessar

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:46:35 -0400 > To: ieee pstc list > Subject: Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE. > > That is how we might deal with "CE+CE isn't CE." However, any derivative > standard we may produce is > 1) peculiar to own firm(s) and > 2)

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
That is how we might deal with "CE+CE isn't CE." However, any derivative standard we may produce is 1) peculiar to own firm(s) and 2) lacks the force of law. If your firm is called, say, "Verizon" -- grin! -- you can impose standards on an entire industry, but "Widget Works Work Rule 1(b)EMC" cut

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
id [S&FS]" > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:06:02 -0400 > To: "Ken Javor" , "ieee pstc list" > > Subject: RE: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE. > > Why not test with the USB device connected to a USB hub and regard the > PC as AUX EQUIPMENT. >

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
to operate off a clean source of dc power, eliminating the need to hunt for peripheral noise sources amongst the PC's emanations. > From: Cortland Richmond <72146@compuserve.com> > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:54:34 -0400 > To: ieee pstc list > Subject: RE: Conducted emissio

RE: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-07 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Neil Barker posted: >> You need to select your host PC very carefully to ensure that it is compliant, and that it is quiet enough for you to be able to tell whether or not your device is contributing to the emissions. << One also needs to take care the host selected doesn't suppress an emission

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-07 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Ken Javor wrote >> Between several hundred microfarads of storage capacity and the EMI filter, that doesn't seem terribly likely but it can't be completely discounted so it makes sense as a rationale. << I'm thinking a USB device is not likely to generate signals a LISN would see. On top of that

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
> To: "'Ken Javor'" , > > Cc: > Subject: RE: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE. > > Ken, > > Your logic would hold if all of the USB device energy was broadband at the > same level. > Since power supplies typically do not have a flat tra

RE: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-06 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
From: kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in [mailto:kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in] Sent: 06 October 2005 04:17 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE. Dear Experts, Our product is a USB device connected to the PC USB host and operates at 5 volts D.C su

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-06 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
clamp. It is not at all obvious to me how the addition of the USB interface necessitates a mains conducted emission test. > From: "Robert A. Macy" > Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 07:52:47 -0700 > To: kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: Re: Conducted

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-06 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
It is my opinion that you must test conducted emissions at both AC input conditions, and archive those test results. The mechanisms for conducted emissions can vary greatly whether you're at 110/60 or 230/50. Better test. A good Power Supply will minimally exhibit that effect, but who knows i

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-06 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
For the FCC, conducted and radiated emissions have to be performed at 110 V. EN55022 does not require any particular voltage. My suggestion would be check do the conducted emissions at 110V, check them at 230V, but do the radiated at 110V only. regards Charlie > Dear Experts, > Our prod

Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-06 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear All, I am not an emc expert but can definitely say that such multiple testing is a barrier to trade and will open a can of worms in other countries; imagine Japan requiring test at 100 Vac 50 and 60 Hz, Taiwan requiring tetsing at 220 V, 60 Hz, Malaysia requiring test at 240 V, 50 Hz and so

[spam] RE: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE.

2005-10-06 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
, Eric Petitpierre Cornet Technology Springfield, VA From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:35 AM To: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Conducted emission testing for FCC & CE. No answer