Re: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements

2002-01-11 Thread Ken Javor
I couldn't speak for the automotive limit specifically mentioned in this thread because I don't have a copy, but every BCI limit I have seen and the similar IEC 1000-4-6 technique requires some kind of amplitude modulation. The test is a low frequency radiated susceptibility/immunity requirement

Re: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements

2002-01-10 Thread Cortland Richmond
Never had to do that bulk current injection test (except some NEBS GR-1089 stuff). Is it with modulated RF, or merely swept? Keying on and off can be much more severe in its effect than a continuous carrier, or a gradual increase and decrease with sweeping frequencies as cables resonate.

Re: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements

2002-01-10 Thread Cortland Richmond
In a closer-to-safety example, I've seen mobile radio affect screening devices at a courthouse doorway (I was parking for jury duty). Key down; lights up. Key up, works normally (40 meter band, about 10 meters away). I've seen a poorly wired burglar alarm go off 30 meters from my car when I

Re: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements

2002-01-10 Thread Ken Javor
If I assume that the top loaded antenna acts as a quarter wave stub, that is it is extremely efficient at radiating all the power presented at the base and not reflecting any back, and if I further assume this is CB band or higher (essentially at or above 30 MHz), then 600 Watts 5 meters away

Re: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements

2002-01-10 Thread Cortland Richmond
A worst case -- real world -- is probably just behind a radio equipped car, mounting a capacitively top-loaded antenna at its rear edge, and about 600 watts of RF. With rather less power, 100 watts, I've occasionally seen adjacent cars' engines stop when I transmit. It would be interesting to

Re: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements

2002-01-10 Thread Ken Javor
...@emccompliance.com writes: Subj:FW: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date:09/01/02 21:49:17 GMT Standard Time From:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com (Ken Javor) Sender:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Reply-to: ken.ja...@emccompliance.com (Ken

Re: FW: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements

2002-01-10 Thread Scott . Mee
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FW: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements

2002-01-09 Thread Ken Javor
to be completely revised. Ken Javor -- From: Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 16:23:21 -0500 To: scott@jci.com, emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements Scott, I am

Re: ISO 11452-4 Bulk Current Injection Test Requirements

2002-01-09 Thread Ken Javor
Scott, I am not familiar with the standard you cite, but am quite familiar with BCI testing in general and the equipment used specifically. The injection clamp used to 400 MHz is only good to 400 or 450 MHz, depending upon manufacturer. The current probe used to monitor CUT-injected current