Measuring a ferrite performance

2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Greetings all: I have a requirement to test the performance of ferrite bead (one that that can fit over a power cord) to 500MHz for qualification of alternate vendors. I have an impedance analyser - but it only goes to 40MHz. Does anyone have a good way to verify ferrite impedance.?? Thanks

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:28 AM To: 'Chris Maxwell'; 'Ken Javor'; 'Price, Ed'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: Measuring a ferrite performance Well C

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
omo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: Measuring a ferrite performance Well Chris - There is a long story attached to this requirement. Let me summarize: 1. We manufacture a significant number of settopboxes for satellite TV. I hesitate to put actual numbers in public - lets just say a sh*t load. Cost there

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Ed; Grasso, Charles; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Measuring a ferrite performance As usual, this thread has been very educational, the mere asking of the question has unleashed many answers, from which I have gained in my own knowledge. The most practical question that I would ask is:

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:40 PM To: Price, Ed; 'Grasso, Charles'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: Re: Measuring a ferrite performance As usual, Ed's advice is practical and economical to implement. I would add the following to make it more comprehensive.

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
t Price, Ed Sent: 19 December, 2003 09:10 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Measuring a ferrite performance -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [ mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 6:29 AM To: Ken Javor; Price, Ed; Grasso, Charles; emc-p..

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>-Original Message- >From: John Woodgate [ mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] >Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 5:32 AM >To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: Re: Measuring a ferrite performance > > > >I read in !emc-pstc that Price, Ed wrote (in >

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
-Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [ mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 6:29 AM To: Ken Javor; Price, Ed; Grasso, Charles; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Measuring a ferrite performance As usual, this thread has been very educational

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
As usual, this thread has been very educational, the mere asking of the question has unleashed many answers, from which I have gained in my own knowledge. The most practical question that I would ask is: Why the h___ would your component engineering group want you to measure the impedance of a

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Cortland Richmond <72146@compuserve.com> wrote (in <200312181715_mc3-1-6123-8...@compuserve.com>) about 'Measuring a ferrite performance' on Thu, 18 Dec 2003: >This of course does not tell you the >impedance of beads, only attenuation in

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2003-12-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that Price, Ed wrote (in ) about 'Measuring a ferrite performance' on Thu, 18 Dec 2003: >2. Decide on system impedance. If 50 ohms is OK, then just connect >a 3 dB attenuator to each of the coax connectors. If you want >another impedance, t

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
rles'" , "'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'" Subject: RE: Measuring a ferrite performance -Original Message- From: Grasso, Charles [mailto:charles.gra...@echostar.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:40 AM To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Charles Grasso asked, >> I have a requirement to test the performance of ferrite bead (one that that can fit over a power cord) to 500MHz for qualification of alternate vendors. I have an impedance analyser - but it only goes to 40MHz. Does anyone have a good way to verify ferrite impedance.??

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>>>>>>< From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Gary McInturff Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:59 PM To: 'Price, Ed'; 'Grasso, Charles'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: Measuring a fe

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Don't buy a 500 MHz analyzer. You'll end up having an analyzer that still won't be what you may need. Rent it for the ferrite test, and later buy a decent network analyzer :) It is possible to find decent used equipment that isn't terribly expensive (in relative terms) these days. Neven > > At t

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Don't buy a 500 MHz analyzer. You'll end up having an analyzer that still won't be what you may need. Rent it for the ferrite test, and later buy a decent network analyzer :) It is possible to find decent used equipment that isn't terribly expensive (in relative terms) these days. Neven > > At t

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
HI Chas, I have a Network analyser that will go to 500 MHz... Derek. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org wit

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:43 AM To: 'Grasso, Charles'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: Measuring a ferrite performance -Original Message- From: Grasso, Charles [ mailto:charles.gra...@echostar.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:40 AM To

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of robert Macy Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:40 AM To: Grasso, Charles; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Measuring a ferrite performance At the risk of collecting the ire of the instrument manufacturers, look at buying an "up to 5

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
-Original Message- From: Grasso, Charles [ mailto:charles.gra...@echostar.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:40 AM To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: Measuring a ferrite performance Greetings all: I have a requirement to test the performance of ferrite

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2003-12-18 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
At the risk of collecting the ire of the instrument manufacturers, look at buying an "up to 500MHz" network analyzer. Do an in house demonstration. - Robert - Robert A. Macy, PE .. m...@california.com 408 286 3985 . . . .. . . fx 408 297 9121 AJM International E