RE: 60601-1 and patient leakage current

2005-10-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
From: rjs [ mailto:appro...@minn.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:10 PM To: Robert A. Macy Cc: gd...@ncht.trent.nhs.uk; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: 60601-1 and patient leakage current Does anyone have

Re: 60601-1 and patient leakage current

2005-10-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Does anyone have measurements of the medical effects of power-line-frequency current flowing in humans? Many years ago the IEEE Power Engineering Society published data where the threshold was 200 milliamperes in power-line workers. Thank you Bob Schlentz appro...@minn.net Robert A. Macy wrote:

Re: 60601-1 and patient leakage current

2005-10-11 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>From personal experience, 0.1mA is wa-a-a-ay too high! Make it more like 10 uA - Robert - On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:03:19 +0100 gd...@ncht.trent.nhs.uk wrote: > With regard to whether Doug should be measuring Patient > Leakage from his > bedframe:- > > I believe the bedframe is a

Re: 60601-1 and patient leakage current

2005-10-11 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Doug, Have you checked out IEC 60601-2-38, Particular Requirements for the Safety of Electrically Operated Hospital Beds. This standard may clarify how you measure earth leakage current and patient leakage current for a hospital bed. (I don't have a copy of this standard, so I'm guessing). IEC

RE: 60601-1 and patient leakage current

2005-10-11 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Doug, 60601-1 is not the easiest standard to interpret, but I think that in this instance you are interpreting it incorrectly. Patient leakage current is that current which flows between an Applied Part and Earth via the patient. The accessible parts of the frame are not considered as Applied Part

RE: 60601-1 and patient leakage current

2005-10-11 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Doug, Altho I am not completely familiar with 60601-1 since I haven't worked with it for a number of years, I will comment on leakage current requirements for earthed equipment in general. By and large it is recognized that earth/ground is unreliable for cord connected equipment around