Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter

2018-03-08 Thread Brian O'Connell
ors your side. Brian From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter In my early days in product safety, safety was prohibited from relying on conduction in a

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter

2018-03-08 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
[PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter Probably some fail-safe, some reliable. I think that this is why 'safety' involves risk-assessment, not just meeting standards. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk<http://www.woo

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter

2018-03-08 Thread MIKE
testing to address this issue. Mike ShermanGraco Inc. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: John WoodgateTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: March 8, 2018 at 3:57 PMSubject: Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter Probably some

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter

2018-03-08 Thread John Woodgate
Probably some fail-safe, some reliable. I think that this is why 'safety' involves risk-assessment, not just meeting standards. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-03-08 21:41, Richard Nute wrote: In my early days in produ

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter

2018-03-08 Thread Richard Nute
In my early days in product safety, safety was prohibited from relying on conduction in a vacuum, gas, or semiconductor. Today. we rely on semiconductor current limiters and similar devices, e.g., GFCI control circuits. Are such limiters and control circuits fail-safe devices?

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter

2018-03-05 Thread Adam Dixon
oodgate > Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 1:07 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter > > The standard says '...meets a suitable test program as given in Annex CC' > [not Annex C]. It does not say 'sh

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter

2018-03-05 Thread Ted Eckert
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter The standard says '...meets a suitable test program as given in Annex CC' [not Annex C]. It does not say 'shall meet the test program given in Annex CC'. As you know, the manufactu

Re: [PSES] IEC60950-1 Limited Power Source via IC current limiter

2018-03-05 Thread John Woodgate
The standard says '...meets a suitable test program as given in Annex CC' [not Annex C].  It does not say 'shall meet the test program given in Annex CC'. As you know, the manufacturer is permitted  to decide (and document) that a part meeting UL2367 is acceptable, and it would be up to a regul