In 1982 the TUV Rheinland representative in New York told me the same 
     thing.  I complained and explained that I wanted to see this in 
     writing.  He never did produce anything to back this up, but tried to 
     persuade me verbally that this was a reasonable requirement.  I 
     disagreed.  I could see warehouses upon warehouses of "golden" units 
     awaiting their capital destruction at the end of ten years, in the 
     meantime costing millions of occupied space.  I don't consider this 
     reasonable.  
     
     When the TUV Rheinland office opened here on the west coast, they did 
     not insist on this requirement and I did not bring it up for fear of 
     opening a Pandora's box.  In today's environment of ISO certification, 
     technical files, and complete test reports, I find this requirement 
     ludicrous.  If I were faced with this request I would fight it and/or 
     switch "bodies".  
     
          Tania Grant, Octel Communications Corporation
          tania.gr...@octel.com


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Subject: Re: Notifed Bodies and Test Samples
Author:  eric.lif...@natinst.com (Eric Lifsey) at P_Internet_Mail
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Date:    2/3/97 12:37 PM


      I've never heard of such a requirement though I keep test samples for 
      my own reasons and/or sanity, and I don't keep them all.  However, 
      I've noticed this sort of problem with CBs before.  CBs are not as 
      unified in their methods and interpretations as you might hope they'd 
      be.  This is primary reason why I avoid using CBs except for the 
      (very) rare consultation; the last time was over a year ago, and the 
      two CBs had opposing opinions on the matter.  I've never had to deal 
      with a NB, so far.
      
      Eric Lifsey
      National Instruments
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Subject: Notifed Bodies and Test Samples
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A Notified Body for EMC has told us that we must keep the test sample
for 10 years. Since there is nothing in the Directive that requires
samples to be kept, we find this request to be unacceptable. We have a
TCF and understand that it must be kept for 10 years after production
ceases. Has anyone else encountered this type of requirement by a
Notified Body?
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