ethernet radiated emissions- thanks

2005-06-21 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear colleagues; I would like to thank all those who replied to my predicament regarding emissions from an Ethernet port. I have had some first-class advice which will help me solve the problem. Many thanks; Ian McBurney. Allen Heath Limited. email: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com ***LEGAL

Re: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-19 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, A signal that strong suggests one possibility to me. It is possible that the board layout was automatically routed. As a result a clock trace was run through the Ethernet magnetics area. This area should be clear of everything but the Ethernet signals. The application notes for the

Re: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, the question you posted is so generic that nobody can really answer it. It does not give any clue regarding the sources and mechanisms of emission, no results of your troubleshooting, nor does it give any insight into the product and possible causes of the increased emission. If you

RE: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
-485-2537 fax: 858-485-3788 _ From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:30 AM To: McBurney, Ian [Allen Heath UK]; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: ethernet radiated emissions No experience with Ethernet per se

RE: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
-emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of McBurney, Ian [Allen Heath UK] Sent: Freitag, 17. Juni 2005 13:17 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: ethernet radiated emissions Dear colleagues; Can anyone advise me how to reduce the radiated emissions from a 100 base-T Ethernet port with a UTP cable connected

RE: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
: ethernet radiated emissions Dear colleagues; Can anyone advise me how to reduce the radiated emissions from a 100 base-T Ethernet port with a UTP cable connected to below the EN55022 class B limit? At the moment I am 20dB above the limit at 33MHz. Using STP only reduces the emissions by 6dB

Re: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:17:17 +0100 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: ethernet radiated emissions Dear colleagues; Can anyone advise me how to reduce the radiated emissions from a 100 base-T Ethernet port with a UTP cable connected to below the EN55022 class

ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear colleagues; Can anyone advise me how to reduce the radiated emissions from a 100 base-T Ethernet port with a UTP cable connected to below the EN55022 class B limit? At the moment I am 20dB above the limit at 33MHz. Using STP only reduces the emissions by 6dB. Thanks in advance; Ian

Re: Ethernet Radiated Emissions

2002-10-12 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that neve...@attbi.com wrote (in 20021011040337.NIT V4193.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc69) about 'Ethernet Radiated Emissions' on Fri, 11 Oct 2002: Second, I recommend refraining from sarcastic comments in this forum, since that doesn't seem it was about naivety

Re: Ethernet Radiated Emissions

2002-10-11 Thread neven11
Pardon my naivety, but how does '100 Mbit' relate to frequencies of 30 and 60 kHz? Is this 100 Mbit per week? (;-) -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk snip First, a little background on auto negotiation. The IEEE 802.3u 100BaseTX auto

Re: Ethernet Radiated Emissions

2002-10-10 Thread Doug McKean
[ Neven wrote ] You are seing a spectrum of MLT3 signal, which is 100 Mbit coding. [ John wrote ] Pardon my naivety, but how does '100 Mbit' relate to frequencies of 30 and 60 kHz? Is this 100 Mbit per week? (;-) Could be plenty. I'd guess is something to do with either jitter and/or

Re: Ethernet Radiated Emissions

2002-10-10 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that neve...@attbi.com wrote (in 20021010021029.WVI M20316.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56) about 'Ethernet Radiated Emissions' on Thu, 10 Oct 2002: You are seing a spectrum of MLT3 signal, which is 100 Mbit coding. Pardon my naivety, but how does '100 Mbit' relate

Re: Ethernet Radiated Emissions

2002-10-10 Thread neven11
: Andy White (EWU) [mailto:andy.wh...@ewu.ericsson.se] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:39 PM To: Rick Linford Subject: RE: Ethernet Radiated Emissions Hi Rick, Is the problem only when you link more than 2 cables together? What is the length of link cabling when adding cables? I

Ethernet Radiated Emissions

2002-10-09 Thread rlinford
] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:39 PM To: Rick Linford Subject: RE: Ethernet Radiated Emissions Hi Rick, Is the problem only when you link more than 2 cables together? What is the length of link cabling when adding cables? I susepect that the BB noise is directly associated

Re: Ethernet Radiated Emissions

2002-10-09 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that rlinf...@sonicwall.com wrote (in D5FCAC81D18F0 d4e8e7df3734de064f2375...@usexch3.us.sonicwall.com) about 'Ethernet Radiated Emissions' on Wed, 9 Oct 2002: With all cables attached and not linked there is no broadband. Reducing the resolution shows peaks every 60 kHz

Ethernet Radiated Emissions

2002-10-09 Thread rlinford
Having worked on Ethernet (100 MB UTP) EMC for a few years, I now find myself lacking understanding of Ethernet communications and how this may be affecting radiated emissions. What is seen on the OATs is broadband noise between 50 and 150 MHz. With two cables connected and linked, broadband