Re: [Emc-users] QCTP types.

2015-06-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 06/01/2015 03:16 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 June 2015 at 22:48, Peter Blodow wrote: >> Multifix or nothing. >> Peter Blodow > > That seems to be the consensus. So I ordered one. > Here is another option: http://morgandemers.com/making-a-quick-change-tool-post A lantern style holder should be

Re: [Emc-users] QCTP types.

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 22:48, Peter Blodow wrote: > Multifix or nothing. > Peter Blodow That seems to be the consensus. So I ordered one. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto --

Re: [Emc-users] QCTP types.

2015-06-01 Thread Peter Blodow
Multifix or nothing. Peter Blodow Am 01.06.2015 17:58, schrieb andy pugh: > My new lathe will need a new toolpost (it doesn't have one). > > I have used the "Dickson" style in the past, but I am wondering if a > Multifix clone might be worth the extra cost. > --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast A

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Use for a scrap lathe.

2015-06-01 Thread rayj
According to the Instructable author, the lathe had been run into by a forklift and was badly bent. As far as the animal is concerned, that's a topic for people other than me on a list other than this one. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, op

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread sam sokolik
I usually just assume it can be done with linuxcnc - then you just have to figure out how... :) sam On 6/1/2015 2:47 PM, Sven Wesley wrote: > 2015-06-01 16:49 GMT+02:00 Kirk Wallace : > >> On 06/01/2015 04:50 AM, andy pugh wrote: >>> Yes, this is fairly easy. The stepgen and PID components don'

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread Sven Wesley
2015-06-01 16:49 GMT+02:00 Kirk Wallace : > On 06/01/2015 04:50 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > > > Yes, this is fairly easy. The stepgen and PID components don't care > > where their setpoints come from. > > > > Rather than CL I would consider making a simple Glade UI to supply the > > setpoints .

Re: [Emc-users] VFD or Variator?

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 17:27, Dave Cole wrote: > I'd be tempted to lock the variator in place in a low-ish gear for > torque and then hook a VFD up to the motor. I do wonder if that will damage the variator. I guess I could ask Allspeeds. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifi

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread Dave Cole
On 6/1/2015 11:28 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote: >> I've been puzzling for a long time how one would create sequential state >> machines in hal logic, and it finally dawned on me that you guys are doing >> that in things like pyvcp or axis. It

Re: [Emc-users] QCTP types.

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 17:15, John Thornton wrote: > A British opinion on the Chinese clones > http://www.lathes.co.uk/multifix/ Ah, yes. I should have thought to look there. It suggests that a 3hp lathe is a bit marginal for a size A and I should look at Size B... I need to take some measurements.

Re: [Emc-users] VFD or Variator?

2015-06-01 Thread Dave Cole
On 6/1/2015 9:29 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 June 2015 at 14:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> how does it stop, by coasting or under vfd control? > It has a spindle brake. Andy, I'd be tempted to lock the variator in place in a low-ish gear for torque and then hook a VFD up to the motor. I'd over

Re: [Emc-users] QCTP types.

2015-06-01 Thread John Thornton
I wish I had a Multifix clone instead of my BXA wedge type clone. A British opinion on the Chinese clones http://www.lathes.co.uk/multifix/ My old machinist buddy only had Multifix on his lathes... watching him setup it seemed to work real fast and repeatable. JT On 6/1/2015 10:58 AM, andy pug

Re: [Emc-users] QCTP types.

2015-06-01 Thread Steve Stallings
My experience is somewhat limited, but I have used the Dickson style and genuine Multifix casually. The Multifix is indeed better than the Dickson, but so is the wedge style Aloris system. The Aloris always uses the same side of the wedge as the reference surface for side to side clamping. In and o

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread John Thornton
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/examples.html On 6/1/2015 10:06 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote: > I've been puzzling for a long time how one would create sequential state > machines in hal logic, and it finally dawned on me that you guys are doing > that in things like pyvcp or axis. It would be nice if ha

[Emc-users] QCTP types.

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
My new lathe will need a new toolpost (it doesn't have one). I have used the "Dickson" style in the past, but I am wondering if a Multifix clone might be worth the extra cost. I don't really trust Dickson-type ones to index properly, as it seems to be something of a lottery which of the 4 flats e

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 16:28, John Kasunich wrote: > A component specifically designed to execute state machines would be > a nice addition. I think the biggest problem is probably coming up with a > way to specify the states and transitions, and passing that information to > the component. I wrote o

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 16:06, Ralph Stirling wrote: > It would be nice if hal itself could have a > good mechanism for defining states and state transition logic. Have I > missed something? See if this does what you want: http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/27-driver-boards/28765-another

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread John Kasunich
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote: > I've been puzzling for a long time how one would create sequential state > machines in hal logic, and it finally dawned on me that you guys are doing > that in things like pyvcp or axis. It would be nice if hal itself could have > a > go

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm

2015-06-01 Thread Mark Johnsen
Kirk, The Screenshot_lathe_bd_test.png looks really nice. Thanks for the links, I have a project down the road I'd like to run like that and your links are really helpful examples. It's apparent LinuxCNC can control all kinds of automation projects beyond machine control. Just need a little hel

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread Ralph Stirling
I've been puzzling for a long time how one would create sequential state machines in hal logic, and it finally dawned on me that you guys are doing that in things like pyvcp or axis. It would be nice if hal itself could have a good mechanism for defining states and state transition logic. Have I

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Ceramic bearing fit

2015-06-01 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 01.06.15 10:24, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2015 09:59:10 Erik Christiansen wrote: > > http://www.smbbearings.com/technical/bearing-shaft-housing-fit.html > > > Page is informative, but ends prematurely in iceweasel. Goes right through to the "Contact US" and "Back to Top/Home" guff

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 06/01/2015 04:50 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 June 2015 at 04:33, Sven Wesley wrote: >> Trying to figure out if there's any way to run a motor, either a stepper or >> servo, a given distance with classic ladder _without_ having a XYZ >> configuration. > > > Yes, this is fairly easy. The stepgen

Re: [Emc-users] More fun with logging

2015-06-01 Thread sam sokolik
and mach3 running same program http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/grbl/machlog.png http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/grbl/machhalscope.png sam On 6/1/2015 7:51 AM, sam sokolik wrote: > I played with the grbl and an arduino uno last week. It is a pretty > neat. 3 axis w

Re: [Emc-users] More fun with logging

2015-06-01 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 01.06.15 07:51, sam sokolik wrote: > I played with the grbl and an arduino uno last week. It is a pretty > neat. 3 axis with some sort of look ahead. > > https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki And I included a spare uno in an order for the ESR meter from banggood, the other week. Will have to ad

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Ceramic bearing fit

2015-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2015 09:59:10 Erik Christiansen wrote: > I've just bought a couple of these: > > http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6902-Sealed-Full-Ceramic-Zirconia-Oxide-Bea >ring-ZrO2-15x28x-7mm-Self-lubricating-/121649018412?pt=LH_DefaultDomain >_0&hash=item1c52d8b62c > > and the vendor says he doesn

[Emc-users] OT: Ceramic bearing fit

2015-06-01 Thread Erik Christiansen
I've just bought a couple of these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6902-Sealed-Full-Ceramic-Zirconia-Oxide-Bearing-ZrO2-15x28x-7mm-Self-lubricating-/121649018412?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c52d8b62c and the vendor says he doesn't have any datasheets. I'm wondering what's the best fit for ZrO2 be

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Use for a scrap lathe.

2015-06-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 06/01/2015 03:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 June 2015 at 03:47, rayj wrote: >> http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Lathe-Roasted-Whole-Lamb/?ALLSTEPS > > I have mixed feelings about this, that looked like quite a nice lathe. > I'm not mixed about it. It's an example of a lack of respect for t

Re: [Emc-users] VFD or Variator?

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 14:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > how does it stop, by coasting or under vfd control? It has a spindle brake. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- _

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Use for a scrap lathe.

2015-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2015 08:43:18 Dave Cole wrote: > On 6/1/2015 6:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 1 June 2015 at 03:47, rayj wrote: > >> http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Lathe-Roasted-Whole-Lamb/?ALLST > >>EPS > > > > I have mixed feelings about this, that looked like quite a nice > > lathe. >

Re: [Emc-users] VFD or Variator?

2015-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2015 06:41:50 andy pugh wrote: > On 1 June 2015 at 11:09, Mark Wendt wrote: > > Crikey! That's a beast! One can never have too much power. ;-) > > It's probably the most rigid 10x20 lathe ever made, but I was rather > hoping for a discussion of the best way to control speed

[Emc-users] More fun with logging

2015-06-01 Thread sam sokolik
I played with the grbl and an arduino uno last week. It is a pretty neat. 3 axis with some sort of look ahead. https://github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki I flashed v0.9i and grabbed a popular gui. https://github.com/winder/Universal-G-Code-Sender I set the grbl to 30ins^2 and 500ipm. (metric is how

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Use for a scrap lathe.

2015-06-01 Thread Dave Cole
On 6/1/2015 6:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 June 2015 at 03:47, rayj wrote: >> http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Lathe-Roasted-Whole-Lamb/?ALLSTEPS > I have mixed feelings about this, that looked like quite a nice lathe. Did you notice the rental generator to make the power to power the lathe?

Re: [Emc-users] Classic Ladder running motor x mm.

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 04:33, Sven Wesley wrote: > Trying to figure out if there's any way to run a motor, either a stepper or > servo, a given distance with classic ladder _without_ having a XYZ > configuration. Yes, this is fairly easy. The stepgen and PID components don't care where their setpoint

Re: [Emc-users] VFD or Variator?

2015-06-01 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
I guess that if you're worried about the torque at low speeds I would keep the two systems together (VFD + the gearbox). You know more than me that with hal there's no trouble to make it work well. Our Mazak has a two speed air actuated gearbox that has two fixed spur gears and another two that mo

Re: [Emc-users] VFD or Variator?

2015-06-01 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 31.05.15 19:46, andy pugh wrote: > I am trying to decide whether to control spindle speed by setting up a > motor to twiddle the speed adjustment of the variator and leave the > VFD (which I need to synthesise 3-phase) at a fixed frequency, or > whether to leave the variator at a fixed setting a

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Use for a scrap lathe.

2015-06-01 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 01.06.15 11:45, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 June 2015 at 03:47, rayj wrote: > > http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Lathe-Roasted-Whole-Lamb/?ALLSTEPS > > I have mixed feelings about this, that looked like quite a nice lathe. Yes, funny, and irrepressibly bogan¹, but a big lathe would be so handy

Re: [Emc-users] Older forum posts missing images?

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 06:23, Mark Johnsen wrote: > This is low priority, but I thought I'd at least ask. > > It seems like the following link from June 5, 2012, should have an image of > a halscope plot: It has now. There was something funny about the tags. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't ow

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Use for a scrap lathe.

2015-06-01 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 June 2015 at 03:47, rayj wrote: > > http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Lathe-Roasted-Whole-Lamb/?ALLSTEPS > > I have mixed feelings about this, that looked like quite a nice lathe. > > -- > atp > If you can't fix it, you don't own it. > ht

Re: [Emc-users] VFD or Variator?

2015-06-01 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:41 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 June 2015 at 11:09, Mark Wendt wrote: > > Crikey! That's a beast! One can never have too much power. ;-) > > It's probably the most rigid 10x20 lathe ever made, but I was rather > hoping for a discussion of the best way to control speed

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Use for a scrap lathe.

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 03:47, rayj wrote: > http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Lathe-Roasted-Whole-Lamb/?ALLSTEPS I have mixed feelings about this, that looked like quite a nice lathe. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto ---

Re: [Emc-users] VFD or Variator?

2015-06-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 June 2015 at 11:09, Mark Wendt wrote: > Crikey! That's a beast! One can never have too much power. ;-) It's probably the most rigid 10x20 lathe ever made, but I was rather hoping for a discussion of the best way to control speed under CNC rather than a discussion of the lathe itself :-)

Re: [Emc-users] OT- Use for a scrap lathe.

2015-06-01 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 10:47 PM, rayj wrote: > Though some folks on the list would enjoy this. > > http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Lathe-Roasted-Whole-Lamb/?ALLSTEPS > -- > Raymond Julian > Kettle River, MN > Now that right there is funny. [?] -

Re: [Emc-users] VFD or Variator?

2015-06-01 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 2:46 PM, andy pugh wrote: > I just bought a new old lathe, as an upgrade to the Cheap Chinese > Lathe. The new lathe actually has a smaller between-centres distance > than the CCL, only 1" more swing, but weighs about 12x as much. > > The drive-train is a 900 rpm motor, th