Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Dave Cole
On 6/1/2019 5:01 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: The host needs to run the Servo thread (typically at 1 KHz) reliably Yep, and that isn't possible with WinXP.    Mach3 runs a buffered interface to the Smoothstepper. I think there is about 100 ms of buffered data at anyone time. WinXP is pretty

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/02/2019 10:00 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: And creates a huge ground loop. The shielding on the motors drive cables should quit before it gets to the motor and the other end should be tied to ground at said bolt. Yup, exactly. They have NO IDEA what they are talking about. The encoder shoul

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/03/2019 12:27 AM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 2 Jun 2019, at 23:41, John Dammeyer wrote: LinuxCNC is still very much a command line type application compared to a WYSIWYG graphical application. I don’t think that is entirely true. Admittedly there are a lot of scripts in the background handl

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/03/2019 01:00 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: I think you answered my question. The moment you have to use the MDI to do anything you are into the Linux world of do it from the command line. No, all machine controls I've ever seen had MDI. So, Allen-Bradley, Fanuc, Haas, etc. And, what you do

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/03/2019 10:02 AM, Dave Cole wrote: Mach4 is unknown to me and requires a phone home license. Is there a compelling reason to go there? Does this mean Mach4 will no longer run if Artsoft closes or changes their net address? Yikes, I sure would not want to be locked in like that! Jon _

[Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; One of the things I occasionally do is run a couple programs to talkto a trs-80 computer running in the basement, which has 3 serial ports on it, and the one that works with drivewire is the bitbanger, running at about 155 kilobaud. drivewire is written in java and apparently the

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Greg Bernard
Have you thouht of using a USB to serial adapter? https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Converter-Installation-Universal-TU-S9/dp/B0007T27H8 On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:43 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > One of the things I occasionally do is run a couple programs to talkto a > trs-80 comput

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 June 2019 12:16:09 pm Jon Elson wrote: > On 06/03/2019 10:02 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > > Mach4 is unknown to me and requires a phone home > > license. Is there a compelling reason to go there? > > Does this mean Mach4 will no longer run if Artsoft closes or > changes their net address?

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 June 2019 01:02:23 pm Greg Bernard wrote: > Have you thouht of using a USB to serial adapter? > https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Converter-Installation-Universal-TU-S9 >/dp/B0007T27H8 > Yes and no Greg. They are all db9's and this sniffer is db25. I have the fdti cables, but not a sp

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Chris Albertson
The best way to test serial ports under Linux (or any other OS) is to make a loopback device.This is a fancy name for a short length of wire that short the Rx and Tx pins. You should then be able to read back every byte you send. It loopback fails then you know the promlem is at your end

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 June 2019 01:34:49 pm Chris Albertson wrote: > The best way to test serial ports under Linux (or any other OS) is to > make a loopback device.This is a fancy name for a short length of > wire that short the Rx and Tx pins. You should then be able to > read back every byte you

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Ken Strauss
Have you considered trying single flute endmills? With single flute you could run at twice the RPM of 2 flute and the same chip loads and axis speeds. That might solve the problem of insufficient power for high speed movement and insufficient low speed spindle torque. > -Original Message-

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 3 Jun 2019, at 18:16, Jon Elson wrote: > > Does this mean Mach4 will no longer run if Artsoft closes or changes their > net address? Potentially. Though I think that other applications with a similar subscription scheme have issued a perpetual licence as they pulled down the shutters.

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 3 Jun 2019, at 18:41, Gene Heskett wrote: > > s there any other way I can make the db9 port on this mobo work? screen? ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Dave Cole
The hobby licenses look like they will run on multiple machines, but the pro licenses appear to be locked to the hardware. I think they had to do something since their Mach3 licenses were being reused on Chinese machines over and over again. If they go out of business I think a pro user could be

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Chris Albertson
Here is a good serial port guide for Linux. Section 16 is "troubleshooting". THeir first step is to do what I suggested, check BIOS setting before booting. After that, they suggest scanning PCI bus This is the best documentation of serial ports I've seen www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.html O

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
A search for de9 to db25 rs232 adapter Turns up many of them for cheap. A computer shop that's been around long enough ought to have one or more laying around, might even give it to you to avoid throwing it away. Irritating that companies for whom cables are their specialty are using the ther

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 June 2019 02:02:53 pm Ken Strauss wrote: > Have you considered trying single flute endmills? With single flute > you could run at twice the RPM of 2 flute and the same chip loads and > axis speeds. That might solve the problem of insufficient power for > high speed movement and insuff

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 June 2019 03:38:40 pm Andy Pugh wrote: > > On 3 Jun 2019, at 18:41, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > s there any other way I can make the db9 port on this mobo work? > > screen? Not in this case although it cam mimic the screens the coco can do if you want it to. Basically its an ethern

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 June 2019 05:58:24 pm Chris Albertson wrote: > Here is a good serial port guide for Linux. Section 16 is > "troubleshooting". > THeir first step is to do what I suggested, check BIOS setting before > booting. > After that, they suggest scanning PCI bus > As in lspci? No serial ports

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 June 2019 07:34:36 pm Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > A search for > de9 to db25 rs232 adapter > > Turns up many of them for cheap. A computer shop that's been around > long enough ought to have one or more laying around, might even give > it to you to avoid throwing it away. >

Re: [Emc-users] serial port question in testing iso

2019-06-03 Thread Chris Albertson
I see you used "lspci" and the port was not there. Try booting the OS that sees the port then go to /dev/serial/by-id and have a look.Ports there are names for their hardware locations While booted up on that system try lspci. On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:58 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Mond