Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 6:41 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: To: enhanced machine controller (emc) > On 2 Dec 2021, at 21:14, Todd Zuercher > mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com>> wrote: > > What if you used two outer ring gears of the same diameter one with one > fewer teeth. Then have 4 sets of

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 2 Dec 2021, at 21:14, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > What if you used two outer ring gears of the same diameter one with one > fewer teeth. Then have 4 sets of planetaries stacked in pairs. Each pair > would be pinned together You can just use pinions twice as long as the ring gears. I

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread Todd Zuercher
How about a totally different tack. I was thinking about this some and might possibly have an idea (probably not an original one and I'm sure there is good reason it isn't done this way) that could eliminate the need for flexing parts completely. What if you used two outer ring gears of the

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread John Dammeyer
Of course I hit send before I thought it through as the dog is bugging me non stop for a doggy walk. Those darn pivots interfere with each other. Disks can't be larger than the distance from the peak of the ellipse to the pivot point of the other disk. And we're back to a small contact

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread John Dammeyer
Half size won't quite work if you want a stub lining up with the cup. But actually that is an interesting idea. I'm sure the exact numbers could be determine mathematically but it was easier to play with dimensions using the drawing tools. If the disks that slip over the bearings were stacked

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread John Dammeyer
Did you mention the part number anywhere? How expensive are they? I found this L44643 L44610 one inch ID tapered roller bearing and these are super cheap replacement utility trailer bearings that come in kits including an oil seal and even a cotter pin for a crown nut. My kit was bought

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes, 16 mm bearing can't help. I think what would be best is to use two bearing and make them half the diameter of the inside of the cup. That would be the largest possible size that would still fit. That said, why not make a large size bearing from a small one by slipping a plastic disk over

Re: [Emc-users] to JD

2021-12-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 11:00 AM, me wrote: To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 8:29 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: To: enhanced machine controller (emc) Cc: g_alan_e@yahoo.comWhat about silicone grease, like the stuff

Re: [Emc-users] to JD

2021-12-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 8:29 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: To: enhanced machine controller (emc) Cc: g_alan_e@yahoo.comWhat about silicone grease, like the stuff sold for waterproofing bayonet socket light bulbs and spark plug boots? As a sealant and rubber preservative its great,

Re: [Emc-users] to JD

2021-12-02 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
What about silicone grease, like the stuff sold for waterproofing bayonet socket light bulbs and spark plug boots? On Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 11:03:20 AM MST, Gene Heskett wrote: its might, but being an animal fat will go rancid pretty fast. crisco keeps 3 days short of

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread Sam Sokolik
That bearing was picked because it is a common wheel bearing you can get pretty cheap. (Double ball bearing). Plus you can pop it apart and grind the race to create higher preload. On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, 2:46 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > Nice to see that on Thingiverse. > > A couple of things that

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 3:43 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: To: 'enhanced machine controller (emc)' Nice to see that on Thingiverse. A couple of things that come to mind. That is one huge bearing. For the output shaft how much end play does it allow? An output shaft like that with a couple

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive

2021-12-02 Thread John Dammeyer
Nice to see that on Thingiverse. A couple of things that come to mind. That is one huge bearing. For the output shaft how much end play does it allow? An output shaft like that with a couple of cheap tapered trailer bearings instead of an unobtanium bearing. Provide stl/stp models of