Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-11-10 Thread Jason Burton
Good news. I found a complete, original control for this exact robot on ebay for ~$250! A little wiring and now I am down to debugging coms instead of building a control from scratch. If this project works as i hope, the help everyone shared will be handy when I replicate this setup in a lower co

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-26 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/9/26 andy pugh : > > Alternatively, djdelorie on the IRC seems to be quite well through > designing his own brushless motor drive. Dennis (ceenbot@...) is working on IRAMS-based servo drive. He has been silent for few weeks now, so I do not know the current situation. Last I saw was a test vi

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-26 Thread andy pugh
On 25 September 2012 20:03, Jason Burton wrote: > Don't really want to put $300+ into an experimentation platform that ends > up slower than what i could build from my "junk" box. One option would be to make your own drive. LinuxCNC + a Mesa card can generate the 6 PWM signals needed for a 3-pha

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-25 Thread Jon Elson
Jason Burton wrote: > > Hall effect sensors >> assuming straight contact closures here, not active > signals, right? > Well, the typical real Hall sensor in the motor needs +5 V, but is often like a contact closure to ground. So, the Hall sensor package has 5 wires, +5, Ground and 3 signal wir

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-25 Thread Jason Burton
On Sep 22, 2012 10:39 PM, "Jon Elson" wrote: > > Viesturs La-cis wrote: > > 2012/9/22 Jason Burton : > > > >> Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for > >> this size 3 phase servo? > >> > >> > > > > Mesa has small BLDC servo amps, but their rated voltage is much lowe

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-23 Thread Jon Elson
cogoman wrote: > >Remembering an article in Machine Design about the CUI AMT303 > commutating encoder made it seem like a good choice for adding U/V/W > signals to a BLDC motor that doesn't have hall sensors until I saw the > price. Digi-key has them for nearly $100. A bit too high, but th

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-23 Thread cogoman
On 09/23/2012 03:57 PM, andy pugh wrote: > Indeed, using the actual Hall sensors is much better, I was just > saying that if the motor does not provide the signals then it is not > necessarily a complete show-stopper. Remembering an article in Machine Design about the CUI AMT303 commutating enc

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 September 2012 18:47, Jon Elson wrote: > Yes, but that ties up 3 digital outputs per axis. If the motor already > provides these > signals, there's no need to do it in software. Indeed, using the actual Hall sensors is much better, I was just saying that if the motor does not provide the

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-23 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: > On 23 September 2012 04:33, Jon Elson wrote: > > >> Our PWM servo amp has been tested to 122 V, and is good to 20 A. >> It can be used with either Mesa or Pico Systems controller boards. >> It needs the "Hall" signals from the motor for commutation. >> > > These can be c

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 September 2012 04:33, Jon Elson wrote: > Our PWM servo amp has been tested to 122 V, and is good to 20 A. > It can be used with either Mesa or Pico Systems controller boards. > It needs the "Hall" signals from the motor for commutation. These can be created in HAL under some circumstances.

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-22 Thread Jon Elson
Viesturs La-cis wrote: > 2012/9/22 Jason Burton : > >> Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for >> this size 3 phase servo? >> >> > > Mesa has small BLDC servo amps, but their rated voltage is much lower > - 7i39HV is 50 VDC. > I do not know about Pico Systems

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-22 Thread Jason Burton
On Sep 22, 2012 4:49 AM, "Viesturs Lācis" wrote: > > 2012/9/22 Jason Burton : > > > > Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for > > this size 3 phase servo? > > > > Mesa has small BLDC servo amps, but their rated voltage is much lower > - 7i39HV is 50 VDC. > I do not

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-22 Thread Andrew
2012/9/22 Jason Burton > Sanyo Denki: 100 watt, 3 phase, 200 VAC , 3000 rpm max I have doubts that the motors actually need 200V. Usually for small motors it's 40-60V. Check the manuals, 7i39 might fit. Andrew -- How f

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/9/22 Eric Keller : > 50V just means the top speed is slower. It's still an option > Eric Yes, some 5-6 times lower. -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- How fast i

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-22 Thread Eric Keller
50V just means the top speed is slower. It's still an option Eric On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/9/22 Jason Burton : > > > > Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for > > this size 3 phase servo? > > > > Mesa has small BLDC servo amps,

Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/9/22 Jason Burton : > > Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for > this size 3 phase servo? > Mesa has small BLDC servo amps, but their rated voltage is much lower - 7i39HV is 50 VDC. I do not know about Pico Systems products. Dennis, how far is the IRAMS-base

[Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-21 Thread Jason Burton
I have a Yamaha XY robot minus its controller. X servo (largest of the two) is Sanyo Denki: 100 watt, 3 phase, 200 VAC , 3000 rpm max with encoder attached. Looking to put it into service as a base for several rapid prototyping projects. Also would like to use it to get my feet wet before tackling