Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-14 Thread cogoman
On 06/11/2012 11:56 PM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: >> But that is also a 15V part IIRC. But that's ok - the only reason the >> > Makerbot uses a PC power supply is because they are dirt cheap and TUV >> > certified. You can use any supply you want. I use 15V supplies. > OK, that was my main concern.

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-14 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 16:10, Joachim Franek wrote: > 1. USB > Assume I attach a spi device to ftdi and > have a userspace non rt program which > can read/write to the device. > What do you suggest to exchange data with hal > for not really time critical data (like this case > of temperature control

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 16:18:18 andy pugh wrote: > Have you tried using hal_input to read it? It might just work if the > USB chip looks like a HID device at all. No, I do not have tried this because this is not a hid device. This is a usb to rs232 converter and detaching the ftdi_sio driver wh

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 15:11, Joachim Franek wrote: > I want to look to the lcnc code for > the userspace driver for hid devices. > This works nice with spancenavd for > the 3dspacenavigator. Have you tried using hal_input to read it? It might just work if the USB chip looks like a HID device at all.

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 15:54:55 andy pugh wrote: > On 12 June 2012 14:20, Joachim Franek wrote: > > libmpsse > > Does that hook in to HAL in a convenient way? > Today no. libmpsse makes tho usage of libusb easier for spi devices. I hope to have a normal programm to get the ad values. Than I

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 13:55:13 Ed Nisley wrote: > On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:22 +0200, Joachim Franek wrote: > > Why not use a dmm with rs232 or usb? > > A quick glance at the search results suggests that the combination of > "thermocouple" and "usb" runs about $100 direct from China and *much*

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 14:20, Joachim Franek wrote: > libmpsse Does that hook in to HAL in a convenient way? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security Virtual Conference Ex

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 14:36:52 andy pugh wrote: > On 12 June 2012 12:55, Ed Nisley wrote: > > > A quick glance at the search results suggests that the combination of > > "thermocouple" and "usb" runs about $100 direct from China and *much* > > more than that from a reputable supplier. > > A

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 13:36, andy pugh wrote: > I found a 16-bit ADC with an 8x pre-amp I forgot to say, it's about $2. http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/adc/6696098/ You would need to do linearisation in HAL (trivial-ish) and be a bit cunning with the cold-junction compensation (terminate inside the cas

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 12:55, Ed Nisley wrote: > A quick glance at the search results suggests that the combination of > "thermocouple" and "usb" runs about $100 direct from China and *much* > more than that from a reputable supplier. A K-type thermocouple gives you 40uV/K For 150C above the cold-junct

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Ed Nisley
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:22 +0200, Joachim Franek wrote: > Why not use a dmm with rs232 or usb? A quick glance at the search results suggests that the combination of "thermocouple" and "usb" runs about $100 direct from China and *much* more than that from a reputable supplier. You'd need a pair f

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 12:42:01 Ed Nisley wrote: > There's been some work on reading analog values from various > microcontrollers into HAL through USB. That'd be the hard part of the > job, Why not use a dmm with rs232 or usb? There are some available with a thermocouple input. Joachim ---

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Ed Nisley
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 22:07 -0600, Jeshua Lacock wrote: > it supports two extruders It has only one thermocouple input, so I'm not sure how you'd control the second extruder head temperature. Being an Arduino, it does have half a dozen analog inputs for thermistors. I don't know whether the stock

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread doug metzler
Jeshua re: > > Are you using it on your mill, or do you have a dedicated printer for it? > I built my own printer. If you go to http://www.thingiverse.com/DougM there's a piccie of it in my profile. It was my first foray into building a machine with a moving the table rather than a moving head

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread doug metzler
There's a contest going on for anyone who wants to take on the pellet to filament conversion: http://hackaday.com/2012/05/22/win-4-for-squirting-plastic-out-of-a-nozzle/ I have heard that the different providers have their own recipe for the filament, so it might not be just pure ABS or PLA.

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Jun 11, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Youda He wrote: > At $48 per kilo for material, it is on the expensive side, is there a > place for cheaper material? Yes, I just had that on my list because I figured it was worth starting with known quality (its made by the people that make the extruder, controlle

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Ed Nisley wrote: > On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 18:09 -0600, Jeshua Lacock wrote: >> try the MakerBot extruder controller > > My experiences with that thing may save you some heartache & confusion: > > http://softsolder.com/2011/01/06/thing-o-matic-extruder-controller-pow

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:22 AM, mel...@earthlink.net wrote: > I just put together one of the mk7 extruders over the weekend. It is a great > choice from my perspective anyway. The gecko driver will work fine. You will > need a 820 ohm and 20 ohm resistor (put them in series) to set the current to

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:46 AM, doug metzler wrote: > If you're going to get any kind of Gecko for this application get a > G540 - handles all your axes at once (except the second head). Thanks Doug, I actually have servos for my XYZ. I just want to get one extruder working for now. But in the f

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:03 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 11 June 2012 01:09, Jeshua Lacock wrote: > >> http://www.geckodrive.com/geckodrive-step-motor-drives/g251x.html $89 > > I think this is overkill for an extruder, which is only ever going to > move relatively slowly. > You would almost c

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Youda He
At $48 per kilo for material, it is on the expensive side, is there a place for cheaper material? -- Youda On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:46:26 -0700, you wrote: > >>I ended up throwing away my cheap Chinese junk stepper drivers because >>they ke

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:46:26 -0700, you wrote: >I ended up throwing away my cheap Chinese junk stepper drivers because >they kept missing steps when coming out of idle. I run Keling KL- >4030's which are inexpensive and have worked well for me. Made me laugh.. Keling KL-4030 are cheap Chinese d

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Fox Mulder
Am 11.06.2012 19:32, schrieb Joachim Franek: > On Monday 11 June 2012 02:09:23 Jeshua Lacock wrote: >> Oh, can anyone recommend a decent RS485 card that will just work with Ubuntu? > http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBRS485.htm > > But I have not tested it. > > Joachim This board should

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Ed Nisley
On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 18:09 -0600, Jeshua Lacock wrote: > try the MakerBot extruder controller My experiences with that thing may save you some heartache & confusion: http://softsolder.com/2011/01/06/thing-o-matic-extruder-controller-power-supply-improvement/ http://softsolder.com/2011/01/07/th

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Joachim Franek
On Monday 11 June 2012 02:09:23 Jeshua Lacock wrote: > Oh, can anyone recommend a decent RS485 card that will just work with Ubuntu? http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBRS485.htm But I have not tested it. Joachim --

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread melamy
to the motor coil, so the voltage on the motor will go to 4.83 volts. best regards, Steve Thatcher -Original Message- >From: Jeshua Lacock >Sent: Jun 10, 2012 7:00 PM >To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >Subject: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts > > >

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread doug metzler
If you're going to get any kind of Gecko for this application get a G540 - handles all your axes at once (except the second head). But that is also a 15V part IIRC. But that's ok - the only reason the Makerbot uses a PC power supply is because they are dirt cheap and TUV certified. You can use a

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 June 2012 01:09, Jeshua Lacock wrote: > http://www.geckodrive.com/geckodrive-step-motor-drives/g251x.html       $89 I think this is overkill for an extruder, which is only ever going to move relatively slowly. You would almost certainly be fine with one of the Leadshine-type drives, such a

[Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Jeshua Lacock
Greetings all, I am thinking these are the parts I am going to order to get started with a printer attachment for my CNC machine: http://store.makerbot.com/extruder-controller-v3-6.html $99 http://store.makerbot.com/stepstruder-mk7-complete.html

[Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-11 Thread Jeshua Lacock
Greetings all, I am thinking these are the parts I am going to order to get started with a printer attachment for my CNC machine: http://store.makerbot.com/extruder-controller-v3-6.html $99 http://store.makerbot.com/stepstruder-mk7-complete.html