Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-15 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > I somehow had skipped the fact that encoders on servos have > differential signal output, but 7i39 cards expect single-ended signal. > Since that is plasma machine with all the noise from plasma, I do not > think that using only half of the dif

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-14 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Erik Christiansen wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:03:45 +1100 From: Erik Christiansen Reply-To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders On 13.11.12 22:37, Jon Elson wrote: Viesturs L

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-14 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 13.11.12 22:37, Jon Elson wrote: > Viesturs Lācis wrote: > > I was thinking that I could try making a 422-to-ttl converter, based > > on the scheme in top-left corner of this sheet: > > http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit/Rs422/Rs422.pdf > > > That drawing uses some very old parts, and may no lo

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Jon Elson
Viesturs Lācis wrote: > Hello! > > I somehow had skipped the fact that encoders on servos have > differential signal output, but 7i39 cards expect single-ended signal. > Since that is plasma machine with all the noise from plasma, I do not > think that using only half of the differential signal is

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread sam sokolik
gt; From: Gene Heskett >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders >> >> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 19:17:17 Viesturs L??cis did opine: >

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
t; > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders > > > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 19:17:17 Viesturs Lےےcis did opine: > > > > 2012/11/14 Gene Heskett : > > > That is a good start. In view of the noise,

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:42:59 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders On Tuesday 13 November 2012 19:17:17

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 November 2012 23:09, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > Where can I find out, how does the raw-write facility work? http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html "Raw Mode" If you set "debug modules" then the encoder filter register addresses will be printed to dmesg. (or look around fo

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 19:17:17 Viesturs Lācis did opine: > 2012/11/14 Gene Heskett : > > That is a good start. In view of the noise, I think I would add a quad > > of 1n914 type diodes, such that the noise can't rise too far above > > the 5volt line, or go too far below ground. Two with the

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/11/14 Gene Heskett : > > That is a good start. In view of the noise, I think I would add a quad of > 1n914 type diodes, such that the noise can't rise too far above the 5volt > line, or go too far below ground. Two with the cathode bands toward 5v, > the anodes to A & B, and two more from a &

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Thank You, Andy and Charles! 2012/11/14 Peter C. Wallace : > > if these are indeed 1000 CPR (250 line) thats correct, but if they are 1000 > line encoders (4000 counts per rev) max count frequency would be 200 KHz > I do not get this one. The way I understand this is: each line on encoder is one

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 17:38:24 Viesturs Lācis did opine: > Hello! > > I somehow had skipped the fact that encoders on servos have > differential signal output, but 7i39 cards expect single-ended signal. > Since that is plasma machine with all the noise from plasma, I do not > think that usi

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/2012 4:28 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/11/14 Peter C. Wallace : >> >> You can do the whole encoder interface with a 26LS32A chip (4 >> channel RS-422 receiver) > > Thank You, I did not know that such a chip exists with several > channels

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:28:13 +0200 > From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis" > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Differe

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 November 2012 22:28, Viesturs Lācis wrote: >> (so you can set the encoder digital filter to reject HF >> noise) > > Could You, please, explain, what does TTL signal has to do with high > or low count rate? With a high filter constant you can get away with some encoder noise, but can't coun

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/11/14 Peter C. Wallace : > > You can do the whole encoder interface with a 26LS32A chip (4 channel RS-422 > receiver) Thank You, I did not know that such a chip exists with several channels in one. I just checked - even our local electronics supply store have them in stock (at least that is w

Re: [Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: > Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:08:36 +0200 > From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis" > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: [Emc-users] Differentia

[Emc-users] Differential signal from encoders

2012-11-13 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello! I somehow had skipped the fact that encoders on servos have differential signal output, but 7i39 cards expect single-ended signal. Since that is plasma machine with all the noise from plasma, I do not think that using only half of the differential signal is a good idea. I was thinking that