Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-12 Thread Jon Elson
Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Dave wrote: > >> The G540 is a lot simpler than the G100.Yes, the G100 was a disaster >> with Mach3.I'm glad I didn't buy one of those paperweights. >> > > What was the problem? I have seen vague reports that the original

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-12 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Dave wrote: > The G540 is a lot simpler than the G100.    Yes, the G100 was a disaster > with Mach3.    I'm glad I didn't buy one of those paperweights. What was the problem? I have seen vague reports that the original firmware was broken and that there were updat

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-11 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:32:25 -0400, you wrote: >The G540 is a lot simpler than the G100.Yes, the G100 was a disaster >with Mach3.I'm glad I didn't buy one of those paperweights. >I almost did... Still got one - it is used as a paperweight. Thankfully, I didn't buy it, it was supplied for

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Dave
The G540 is a lot simpler than the G100.Yes, the G100 was a disaster with Mach3.I'm glad I didn't buy one of those paperweights. I almost did... Dave On 4/10/2012 6:40 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:02:01 -0400, you wrote: > > > >> The G540 is an extremely popula

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
Lars Andersson wrote: > Hi Kirk, > there seems to be 3V PPorts also. I think on Asus MOBO AT5NM10? If possible > can you investigate that connected to a G540 please? > Any parallel port made since 2005, at LEAST, is actually a 3.3 V port with 5 V tolerance. Jon --

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > > According to that, no. But I noted that it says also that pin 25 was not > always connected to ground, and in the case I am recalling from 20 some > years ago, the parport in question did have 5 volts on pin 25. > Serendipity? As I recall, it was on the MFC-3 card in m

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:02:01 -0400, you wrote: >The G540 is an extremely popular stepper drive, so I think this is >justified. I agree, it should not be this difficult. So was the G100, reminds me of that fiasco with it's special needs ;) Steve Blackmore -- --

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Dave
On 4/10/2012 1:46 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 11:25 -0400, Dave wrote: > >> On 4/10/2012 11:11 AM, gene heskett wrote: >> >>> there is no source >>> > of power on that side of the interface in the G540 >> This is the key part of his mess

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Lars Andersson
Hi Kirk, there seems to be 3V PPorts also. I think on Asus MOBO AT5NM10? If possible can you investigate that connected to a G540 please? If someone has a schematic of the G540 (esp. the motherboard) I would be interested. //Lars > -Original Message- > From: Kirk Wallace [mailto:kwal

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Steve Stallings wrote: > Simply switching the port to EPP mode DOES accomplish > one significant thing. Those outputs that are open collector > with pull-ups in regular mode become Totem-Pole driven > outputs when in EPP mode. This change is significant > for the

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 11:25 -0400, Dave wrote: > On 4/10/2012 11:11 AM, gene heskett wrote: > > there is no source > > > > of power on that side of the interface in the G540 > > This is the key part of his message...Sure, that could be remedied, > but the G540 would become twice the size an

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread sam sokolik
M >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP >> >> On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:00:47 PM Stephen Dubovsky did opine: >> >>> I don't think a power pin has ever been included in a std >> parallel port. >>

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, gene heskett wrote: > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:08:45 -0400 > From: gene heskett > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP > > On Tuesday,

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > Huh? Maybe my memory is going south, but in a past life I once used the 5 > volts supplied by the parport to fix that in one of the shacks old > printers. No power was obtained from the printer to do that. ISTR there is > a pin on the db25 that has 5 volts on it, limited t

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Steve Stallings
> -Original Message- > From: gene heskett [mailto:ghesk...@wdtv.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:09 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP > > On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:00:47 PM Stephen Dubovsky did opine: &

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:00:47 PM Stephen Dubovsky did opine: > I don't think a power pin has ever been included in a std parallel port. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_port > According to that, no. But I noted that it says also that pin 25 was not always connected to ground, and i

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Steve Stallings
> -Original Message- > From: gene heskett [mailto:ghesk...@wdtv.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:35 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP > > > Huh? Maybe my memory is going south, but in a past l

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
I don't think a power pin has ever been included in a std parallel port. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_port Stephen Huh? Maybe my memory is going south, but in a past life I once used the 5 > volts supplied by the parport to fix that in one of the shacks old > printers. No power was obta

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:29:41 AM Dave did opine: > On 4/10/2012 11:11 AM, gene heskett wrote: > > there is no source > > > > > > of power on that side of the interface in the G540 > > This is the key part of his message...Sure, that could be remedied, > but the G540 would become twic

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Dave
On 4/10/2012 11:11 AM, gene heskett wrote: > there is no source > > > of power on that side of the interface in the G540 This is the key part of his message...Sure, that could be remedied, but the G540 would become twice the size and need another outside power source, not really practical

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread gene heskett
chine Controller (EMC) > >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP > > > > > > > >> Simply switching the port to EPP mode doesn't accomplish anything. > > > > Simply switching the port to EPP mode DOES accomplish > > one significan

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Dave
On 4/10/2012 9:56 AM, Steve Stallings wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Sebastian Kuzminsky [mailto:s...@highlab.com] >> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:02 PM >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Steve Stallings
> -Original Message- > From: Sebastian Kuzminsky [mailto:s...@highlab.com] > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:02 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP > > > Simply switching the port to EPP mode doesn't ac

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Dave
On 4/9/2012 9:17 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > >> EPP mode is a completely different way of using the pins of the parport than >> the regular SPP mode. In SPP, you have programmatic control over the values >> on the output pins, and you can read all the input pins. >> >

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 04/09/2012 07:13 PM, sam sokolik wrote: > This is how I understand it also. Some have 'fixed' this issue by > adding pull up resistors on certain pins. If the port was set to EPP > mode - this would not be needed. I did not know that! I stand corrected, thanks ;-) -- Sebastian Kuzminsky

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Jon Elson
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > EPP mode is a completely different way of using the pins of the parport than > the regular SPP mode. In SPP, you have programmatic control over the values > on the output pins, and you can read all the input pins. > > In EPP, those pins are driven by an additional pi

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread sam sokolik
: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:01:41 -0600 >> From: Sebastian Kuzminsky >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:01:41 -0600 > From: Sebastian Kuzminsky > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
EPP mode is a completely different way of using the pins of the parport than the regular SPP mode. In SPP, you have programmatic control over the values on the output pins, and you can read all the input pins. In EPP, those pins are driven by an additional piece of logic in the parport control

Re: [Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-04-09 at 13:17 -0500, sam sokolik wrote: > I am throwing this out as I have run across a few people that have had > issues with EPP mode and the printer port. Now onboard parallel ports > can usually bet set to epp mode in the bios. Onboard printer ports > usually require some sor

[Emc-users] Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-09 Thread sam sokolik
I am throwing this out as I have run across a few people that have had issues with EPP mode and the printer port. Now onboard parallel ports can usually bet set to epp mode in the bios. Onboard printer ports usually require some sort of utillity to put them into EPP mode. Now if I remember co