Re: [Emc-users] How can I reduce the DAC noise

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Epler
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:50:32PM +0800, Howard Chan wrote: http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~icwfchan/P1.png This graph does not show measured noise in the DAC output. To measure that you would have to hook a scope or other diagnostic equipment to the physical DAC output pin on the mesa servo

Re: [Emc-users] How can I reduce the DAC noise

2008-11-18 Thread Jon Elson
Jeff Epler wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:50:32PM +0800, Howard Chan wrote: http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~icwfchan/P1.png This graph does not show measured noise in the DAC output. To measure that you would have to hook a scope or other diagnostic equipment to the physical DAC

Re: [Emc-users] How can I reduce the DAC noise

2008-11-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 11:25 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Jeff Epler wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:50:32PM +0800, Howard Chan wrote: http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~icwfchan/P1.png This graph does not show measured noise in the DAC output. To measure that you would have to hook a

Re: [Emc-users] How can I reduce the DAC noise

2008-11-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace
can I reduce the DAC noise Jeff Epler wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:50:32PM +0800, Howard Chan wrote: http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~icwfchan/P1.png This graph does not show measured noise in the DAC output. To measure that you would have to hook a scope or other diagnostic equipment

Re: [Emc-users] How can I reduce the DAC noise

2008-11-18 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: I think Howard is using an external controller, which may have its own PID. Could this be part of the problem? Too much gain and too many derivatives could certainly be confusing the issue, if not making tuning impossible. I have certainly found that VASTLY lower P and

Re: [Emc-users] How can I reduce the DAC noise

2008-11-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I agree with Jon on this. If the servo amp has tuning you cannot disable then the EMC2 tuning is superimposed on top of the servo amp tuning. This drastically inhibits the tuning capabilities of EMC2. thanks Stuart On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[Emc-users] How can I reduce the DAC noise

2008-11-17 Thread Howard Chan
Dear All, I am using 5I20 and 7I33T to control the servo amplifier (SANYO DENKI). When the turn on the emc, the DAC output generate a noise. http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~icwfchan/P1.png The noise affects the servo motor which always “shake”. The analog velocity command of servo amplifier is using

Re: [Emc-users] How can I reduce the DAC noise

2008-11-17 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Howard Chan wrote: I am using 5I20 and 7I33T to control the servo amplifier (SANYO DENKI). When the turn on the emc, the DAC output generate a noise. http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~icwfchan/P1.png I think you have a tuning issue. PID controllers operate on error only, when there is no error the

Re: [Emc-users] How can I reduce the DAC noise

2008-11-17 Thread Howard Chan
Sebastian Kuzminsky 提到: Howard Chan wrote: I am using 5I20 and 7I33T to control the servo amplifier (SANYO DENKI). When the turn on the emc, the DAC output generate a noise. http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~icwfchan/P1.png I think you have a tuning issue. PID controllers operate on