[Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-19 Thread Dropout
A quick question, does latency matter for servo drives? Dropout. On 2/19/2012 1:36 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/2/19 Alan Browning: >> Thanks for the quick response. So you build your machines from the ground up >> with new componenets? Due to budget limitations I have to build things on >>

[Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-20 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 20 February 2012 06:14, Jon Elson wrote: > Dropout wrote: > > A quick question, does latency matter for servo drives? > > > Yes, absolutely. But, it is not as critical. For software stepping, > the base > thread is typically around 20 us, and so a jitter of even 5 us is more than > noticeabl

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-19 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Dropout wrote: > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:45:41 -0500 > From: Dropout > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-19 Thread Dropout
ler (EMC)" >> Subject: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC? >> >> A quick question, does latency matter for servo drives? > > Dropout. > > Well at some amount of latency it matters but servo systems will tolerate a > lot more latency

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-19 Thread Jon Elson
Dropout wrote: > A quick question, does latency matter for servo drives? > Yes, absolutely. But, it is not as critical. For software stepping, the base thread is typically around 20 us, and so a jitter of even 5 us is more than noticeable. But, on a typical servo system (or a stepper with ex

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-20 Thread Andrew
2012/2/20 Roland Jollivet > So the norm is that a stepper system can run off the parallel port, but for > DC servo's, extra hardware is required to sample the encoders. > > My question is; if one built a headless system(no video) and disabled > drivers wherever possible, would such a system be fa

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/20 Roland Jollivet : > > My question is; if one built a headless system(no video) and disabled > drivers wherever possible, would such a system be fast enough to run DC > servo's and read the encoders on the parallel port? As Andrew mentioned, for normal speed with normal resolution encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-20 Thread Jon Elson
Roland Jollivet wrote: > > My question is; if one built a headless system(no video) and disabled > drivers wherever possible, would such a system be fast enough to run DC > servo's and read the encoders on the parallel port? > You have to figure this out for each case. What is the maximum encod

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-21 Thread charles green
g that the coffee pot is empty because the coffee machine had a problem downloading the most recent bean roast sensing algorithm.   --- On Mon, 2/20/12, Jon Elson wrote: From: Jon Elson Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC? To: "Enhanced Machine

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2012-02-21 Thread James Louis
Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC? the allocation of computing resources seems to be a recurring theme with pc based machine controllers. while i have wished for an accesible pocket calculator gui more than one time while standin

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 03:47 -0800, charles green wrote: > the allocation of computing resources seems to be a recurring theme > with pc based machine controllers. > > while i have wished for an accesible pocket calculator gui more than > one time while standing in front of a machining center cons

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-21 Thread Erik Friesen
It would be nice to know enough to debug latency issues, instead it feels like kludging around with no idea what is the cause. I suppose rtai has some tools if you know what you are doing. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 03:47 -0800, charles green wro

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-21 Thread Eric Keller
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Erik Friesen wrote: > It would be nice to know enough to debug latency issues, instead it feels > like kludging around with no idea what is the cause.  I suppose rtai has > some tools if you know what you are doing. Do they? It's been a while since I have followed