Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-21 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> I did, even wrote a diploma thesis on that subject, but this was some 40 > years ago... Since then, I rather managed people doing research on it. > > Peter I do plenty of research but my collegeus are most busy with meetings. Unless they make to much noise or put some obstacle in the path of

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 21 October 2018 11:19:01 Eric Keller wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 1:37 PM Leonardo Marsaglia > > > wrote: > > Same here, the list is very quiet but I'm receiving everything from > > this topic. > > > > I have been seeing tons of threads in this folder, so I was a little > > surprise

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-21 Thread Eric Keller
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 1:37 PM Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > Same here, the list is very quiet but I'm receiving everything from this > topic. > > I have been seeing tons of threads in this folder, so I was a little surprised to see this subject. Turns out that Gene Heskett always posts his threa

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-21 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Right now I am mainly concerned about linear state space. There are a few things I think about then in come to feedback. I also need to do estimation of constants in the model as well as check how well the dynamics fit with the theory. It is goint slowly forward usually an hour a few each day.

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2018-10-21 Thread Peter Blodow
I did, even wrote a diploma thesis on that subject, but this was some 40 years ago... Since then, I rather managed people doing research on it. Peter Am 19.10.2018 um 19:39 schrieb Nicklas Karlsson: I am still here, working on control theory right now. Anybody who have a taken any courses of

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received? --> control theory, state feedback

2018-10-20 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> > No not interested in any of the above more than possible what you write > > about integration. > > > > That's fine, it takes a lot of study to move past experimentation with > PID. And the literature is full of dead ends. The question I have about > putting the integrator at the model error is

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-20 Thread Dave Cole
Fuzzy control is not suitable for everything but it does some things very well. I became interested in it when I started experimenting in autopilots for sailboats.  (Power boats tend to be much easier) There is some really horrible autopilot software out there.  Its amazing how bad some of i

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 October 2018 16:55:31 Marcus Bowman wrote: > On 19 Oct 2018, at 19:11, Bruce Layne wrote: > > There was a lengthy phase when I wasn't saving much time with > > unattended CNC machining because I'd just stand there staring at the > > CNC machining while thinking, "This is so cool." >

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received? --> control theory, state feedback

2018-10-20 Thread Eric Keller
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:37 AM Nicklas Karlsson < nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote: > No not interested in any of the above more than possible what you write > about integration. > > That's fine, it takes a lot of study to move past experimentation with PID. And the literature is full of dea

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received? --> control theory, state feedback

2018-10-20 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 1:01 AM Nicklas Karlsson < > nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > (1.) > > Then using state space model and integrator I want to integrate error > > between where signal is expected to be and there measurement suggest it is. > > As is now I integrate error between r

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received? --> control theory, state feedback

2018-10-20 Thread Eric Keller
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 1:01 AM Nicklas Karlsson < nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote: > (1.) > Then using state space model and integrator I want to integrate error > between where signal is expected to be and there measurement suggest it is. > As is now I integrate error between reference signa

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received? --> mathematical model of reality

2018-10-20 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 06:38:20 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 20 October 2018 01:12:02 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > > > On 10/19/2018 2:12 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > > > Probably not, I have done quite a lot of search on Internet, > > > > > have a few books and have taken two cour

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received? --> mathematical model of reality

2018-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 October 2018 01:12:02 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > On 10/19/2018 2:12 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > > Probably not, I have done quite a lot of search on Internet, > > > > have a few books and have taken two courses specifically in the > > > > area but if you have readily availa

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received? --> mathematical model of reality

2018-10-19 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> > On 10/19/2018 2:12 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > Probably not, I have done quite a lot of search on Internet, have a > > > few books and have taken two courses specifically in the area but if > > > you have readily available I could always take a look. > > > > > > I find a lot of documents

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
I thought the fuzzy thing where handled by adding noise with or without filtering to model and start with the case then system is well known. > I did the university thing on control theory, but it was a while ago.. > more than 30 years..so I'll leave it at that!  :-) > > If you are researching

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received? --> control theory, state feedback

2018-10-19 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Yes a few, or actually two, both related to state feedback control and linear state space model. (1.) Then using state space model and integrator I want to integrate error between where signal is expected to be and there measurement suggest it is. As is now I integrate error between reference

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 October 2018 22:36:43 Dave Cole wrote: > Here is one I remember. > > http://www.rentanadviser.com/en/pid-fuzzy-logic/pid-fuzzy-logic.aspx > > There is also a lot of developed open source Fuzzy logic libraries. > > Do a search for "Fuzzy Logic Open Source". > > Like everything else, so

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Dave Cole
Here is one I remember. http://www.rentanadviser.com/en/pid-fuzzy-logic/pid-fuzzy-logic.aspx There is also a lot of developed open source Fuzzy logic libraries. Do a search for "Fuzzy Logic Open Source". Like everything else, some of it is good, some of it is garbage. Faster than a PID?   I

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 19:14, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > I found state space feedback and bode, nyquist diagram are useful also for > state feedback but then state space model is available I have never studied any of that stuff. Which is not to dismiss it, I did Physics at college and am a fan o

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 October 2018 19:05:31 Dave Cole wrote: > I did the university thing on control theory, but it was a while ago.. > more than 30 years..so I'll leave it at that!  :-) > > If you are researching loop control theory, you should also look at > Fuzzy logic controllers. > > There are some si

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Dave Cole
I did the university thing on control theory, but it was a while ago.. more than 30 years..so I'll leave it at that!  :-) If you are researching loop control theory, you should also look at Fuzzy logic controllers. There are some simulator software out there that allow you to compare Fuzzy l

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Eric Keller
Do you have an unanswered question about control theory? Eric Keller Boalsburg, Pennsylvania On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 1:41 PM Nicklas Karlsson < nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am still here, working on control theory right now. Anybody who have a > taken any courses of in control theory

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 19 Oct 2018, at 19:11, Bruce Layne wrote: > There was a lengthy phase when I wasn't saving much time with unattended > CNC machining because I'd just stand there staring at the CNC machining while > thinking, "This is so cool." > There is nothing quite so satisfying as having lunch while

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Bruce Layne
On 10/19/2018 10:15 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: I haven't got any mail from this list since Oct.10th.  How come? I'm finished building CNC equipment (are they ever completely finished?) and am now gainfully employed using LinuxCNC to make products for sale in a small online business.  I just se

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Probably not, I have done quite a lot of search on Internet, have a few books and have taken two courses specifically in the area but if you have readily available I could always take a look. I find a lot of documents about PID controllers and theory using bode, nyquist diagrams. I found state

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
I didn't get to that point at the university. Between the work and other things I'm taking it at a slow pace. But I have some PDFs about control theory that may help. El vie., 19 oct. 2018 a las 14:41, Nicklas Karlsson (< nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com>) escribió: > I am still here, working on cont

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
I am still here, working on control theory right now. Anybody who have a taken any courses of in control theory on University? On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:36:59 -0300 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > Same here, the list is very quiet but I'm receiving everything from this > topic. > > El vie., 19 oct. 2

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Same here, the list is very quiet but I'm receiving everything from this topic. El vie., 19 oct. 2018 a las 12:04, andy pugh () escribió: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 15:32, Peter Blodow wrote: > > > I haven't got any mail from this list since Oct.10th. How come? > > It does seem odd. > > The mail s

Re: [Emc-users] No mail received?

2018-10-19 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 15:32, Peter Blodow wrote: > I haven't got any mail from this list since Oct.10th. How come? It does seem odd. The mail server thingy doesn't think that there have been any messages, but it might be wrong: https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/emc-users/?viewmonth=201810

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2018-10-19 Thread Todd Zuercher
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2018-10-19 Thread Peter Blodow
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