Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2010/9/29 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: Viesturs, OK... I have to ask...  so the casino box - Mach3 - is his most likely choice :)) Why do you call it the casino box?? I've never heard that before. Because, IMHO it looks like that. The buttons and virtual LEDs have blinging contours, personally

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2010/9/28 doug metzler doug.metz...@gmail.com: Hmm, I think you're not seeing the bigger picture.  He's not doing this to recover his costs.  He doesn't care about the money.  He's doing this to try to bring about the revival of the hard manufacturing base in the US.  His goal is not to build

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:46:55 +0300, you wrote: 2010/9/29 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: Viesturs, OK... I have to ask... ??so the casino box - Mach3 - is his most likely choice :)) Why do you call it the casino box?? I've never heard that before. Because, IMHO it looks like that. The buttons

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2010/9/29 Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk: On 29 September 2010 09:46, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you call it the casino box?? Because, IMHO it looks like that. The buttons and virtual LEDs have blinging contours, personally I do not like that. I suspect that

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/9/29 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: Viesturs, That was meant to be a joke. But, if seriously, how do those win-based controllers achieve working in real-time? I don't know about now but when MDSI went to

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread craig
I emailed the toltmachineworks people and got a replys cc to them since they were looking didn't find info. Craig Messge 1 - Hi Craig, I'll go take a look at the EMC site. Our schedule for the CMM is pretty aggressive but we really do have a top notch team working on thst and

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Dave
Yep, Venturecom came out with Windows RTX running on Windows NT a long time ago. I think that same software package or company has been bought and sold now 2 or 3 times. Here it is... http://www.intervalzero.com/ About two years ago I inquired about the price per copy of Windows RTX running

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Dave
I get it I'm not much of a casino gambler as you can tell.. Dave On 9/29/2010 7:50 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2010/9/29 Andy Pugha...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk: On 29 September 2010 09:46, Viesturs Lācisviesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you call it the casino box??

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Dave
Hmm, I think you're not seeing the bigger picture. He's not doing this to recover his costs. He doesn't care about the money. If he doesn't care about the money, he is destined to fail. Unless he has Bill Gates covering his backside with $, the likelihood of this one guy opening a shop in

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Igor Chudov
I have a feeling that this guy is not as stupid as I originally thought. I realized that he tries to find equipment, that, essenstially, no one else has (like those giant CMMs), and do jobs that could not likely be replicated overseas due to shipping issues.

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Eric H. Johnson
snip I used to work with some Siemens software that ran on Windows RTX and it was very stable. Chrysler has several transmission assembly lines that are run via PCs. The software is based on Siemens soft S7 PLC software engine. Siemens MMI software runs on the same PC and hooks in the

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: I just get that vibe from this, there will be NO hobby-level stuff anywhere in the shop. except Windoze - except Windows is not even hobby level Well, the way the PC-based commercial control use it, Windows is just a file loader, all the real work is done in

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Youda He wrote: Just curious, what high end controller can do that EMC2 can't? is the high end controller more tightly integrated? Faster? They may have better setup and configuration programs than EMC. We have that now for stepper configurations, but not servo. Some of these controls

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
craig wrote: I emailed the toltmachineworks people and got a replys cc to them since they were looking didn't find info. OOPS! My He's NUTS post was not meant to be seen by Craig! Ah, well, that's the internet for you! He ought to get in touch with Stuart, or at least be made aware of

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-29 Thread dave
I did that ( Stuart) about an hour ago. BTW - He is not in the high rent district. Looks like mixed industrial and farm land. Try google earth. I drive 203 fairly often, will have to take a look next time I go by. I hope he is not on the flood plain. Dave On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 13:06 -0500,

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Jon Elson
dave wrote: http://toltmachineworks.com/default.aspx should get you close. It has a Carnation address. He's NUTS He is offering the machines for customer jobs at the end of October! The newspaper article indicates the machines are not even on the FLOOR, yet! Unless he has a

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Igor Chudov
I agree with Jon, the guy is so optimistic that it is ridiculous. Especially since he has not even started retrofitting the controls. i On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: dave wrote: http://toltmachineworks.com/default.aspx should get you close. It has

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread dave
Well, he seems to have $$ to burn but doing a reality check with Stuart might be helpful. Apparently he has sunk 5 to 10 E 6 into it. Wonder what he is smoking?? ;-) If the Snoqualamie pass isn't too nasty I'll probably go over for the open house in Nov. Should be interesting. Just qualifying

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2010/9/28 Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com: I agree with Jon, the guy is so optimistic that it is ridiculous. Especially since he has not even started retrofitting the controls. 2010/9/28 dave dengv...@charter.net: Well, he seems to have $$ to burn but doing a reality check with Stuart might be

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread doug metzler
Hmm, I think you're not seeing the bigger picture. He's not doing this to recover his costs. He doesn't care about the money. He's doing this to try to bring about the revival of the hard manufacturing base in the US. His goal is not to build parts, his goal is to entice major manufacturers

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread dave
Independent inspection/QC is where the rubber meets the road. ;-) Dave On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 21:08 +0300, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2010/9/28 Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com: I agree with Jon, the guy is so optimistic that it is ridiculous. Especially since he has not even started retrofitting

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Andy Pugh
On 28 September 2010 19:08, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Przemek suggested that somebody should introduce that guy to EMC. I have a personal belief that he will not give up on using Windows, so the casino box - Mach3 - is his most likely choice :)) I wouldn't be so sure. One

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I certainly wish him the best success. He has published some lofty goals. Whatever we can do to help him is the order of the day. With his resources and talk I am sure he is past the investigation stage and maybe too late to have EMC2 in his evaluation. His vision is something like

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Dave
On 9/28/2010 4:01 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, I certainly wish him the best success. He has published some lofty goals. Whatever we can do to help him is the order of the day. With his resources and talk I am sure he is past the investigation stage and maybe too late to have

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Dave
Viesturs, OK... I have to ask... so the casino box - Mach3 - is his most likely choice :)) Why do you call it the casino box?? I've never heard that before. Dave On 9/28/2010 2:08 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2010/9/28 Igor Chudovichu...@gmail.com: I agree with Jon, the guy is so

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: The penultimate line from the article Przemek referenced in his original post reads 'Any fool can go out and buy machinery, Kajiya says.' My wife would agree. On the other hand, knowing of some of this guy's contributions to computer-generated graphics and reading about his

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Jon Elson
dave wrote: Well, he seems to have $$ to burn but doing a reality check with Stuart might be helpful. Apparently he has sunk 5 to 10 E 6 into it. Wonder what he is smoking?? ;-) If the Snoqualamie pass isn't too nasty I'll probably go over for the open house in Nov. Should be interesting.

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Jon Elson
Viesturs Lācis wrote: Przemek suggested that somebody should introduce that guy to EMC. I have a personal belief that he will not give up on using Windows, so the casino box - Mach3 - is his most likely choice :)) No way! There may be Windows under the hood, but more likely Fanuc or some

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I just get that vibe from this, there will be NO hobby-level stuff anywhere in the shop. except Windoze - except Windows is not even hobby level -- dos centavos -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-27 Thread doug metzler
I live in Bellevue - I'll check in and let you know :-) DougM On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder how this will go down. A senior Microsoft engineer with a metalworking hobby opens a machine shop near Redmond:

Re: [Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-27 Thread dave
http://toltmachineworks.com/default.aspx should get you close. It has a Carnation address. On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 22:01 -0700, doug metzler wrote: I live in Bellevue - I'll check in and let you know :-) DougM On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Przemek Klosowski

[Emc-users] Old Iron in Redmond

2010-09-26 Thread Przemek Klosowski
I wonder how this will go down. A senior Microsoft engineer with a metalworking hobby opens a machine shop near Redmond: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sundaybuzz/2012981363_sundaybuzz26.html Can someone from the Northwest help him retrofit with EMC ? :)