Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-21 Thread Andy Pugh
On 21 August 2010 18:21, Jon Elson wrote: > OK, this is the type of scale used with an interpolator.  It needs to > measure the analog voltage of the two sine quadrature signals and then > solve the equation to figure out the position on a circle the arcsin and > arccos work out to. I think my p

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-21 Thread Jon Elson
dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: > Am 20.08.2010 18:55, schrieb Jon Elson: > >> dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: >> >>> Do you know if there is something similar for old philips glass scales? >>> >>> >> If these are analog scales of sufficient basic resolution, a comparator >> chip can b

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-20 Thread dambacher-retrofit.de
Am 20.08.2010 18:55, schrieb Jon Elson: > dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: >> Do you know if there is something similar for old philips glass scales? >> > If these are analog scales of sufficient basic resolution, a comparator > chip can be set up pretty easily to convert sine-wave scales to > dig

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-20 Thread Andy Pugh
On 19 August 2010 22:31, dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: A HAL encoder function works pretty well, though a low pass filter helps to steady the pycvp dial. > A resolver is tricky, you need to excite it with a sinus signal of a given > frequency I found a way to do three channels with a $20 Arduino

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-20 Thread Jon Elson
dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: > Do you know if there is something similar for old philips glass scales? > If these are analog scales of sufficient basic resolution, a comparator chip can be set up pretty easily to convert sine-wave scales to digital. Basically, they compare each signal to a se

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-20 Thread dambacher-retrofit.de
Am 20.08.2010 00:59, schrieb dave: > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 23:31 +0200, dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: >> you could use commecial circuits but not at that price I think: >> http://www.maccon.de/fileadmin/FTPROOT/2785500.pdf > > If you are lucky/unlucky enough to have a resolver then check Jon > Els

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-19 Thread Rick Calder
Jon Elson writes: > The EMC encoder HAL component has an option to count pulses from a > single signal (as opposed to a standard encoder with two signals in > quadrature). Ulf, Dave, and Jon: Thanks for the assists. You've given me direction and now I'll dig into the docs to understand an

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-19 Thread Jon Elson
Rick Calder wrote: > No, neither. I have made a few tachometers using Atmel microcontrollers. The > sensor, either a hall effect or optical, just sends pulses and the > microcontroller counts them up and handles the display. Another one I made > had > counter chips and the microcontroller basic

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-19 Thread Dave
Rick, I think if you pipe that pulse stream into an EMC2 encoder input you can determine the velocity via a derivative function ( also a component in Hal). Look at the developers manual for HAL and the encoder component and derivative component. I should be easy to setup once you become famil

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-19 Thread dave
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 23:31 +0200, dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: > Hi Rick > > Do you have a tachogenerator or an resolver? > > a tachogenerator is like a dynamo giving a sinus voltage/current wich is > proportional to the revolutions. You can use a rectifier circuit and measuere > the effective v

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-19 Thread Rick Calder
dambacher-retrofit.de writes: > > Hi Rick > > Do you have a tachogenerator or an resolver? > > a tachogenerator is like a dynamo giving a sinus voltage/current wich is > proportional to the revolutions. You can use a rectifier circuit and measuere > the effective voltage via a/d > > A resolv

Re: [Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-19 Thread dambacher-retrofit.de
Hi Rick Do you have a tachogenerator or an resolver? a tachogenerator is like a dynamo giving a sinus voltage/current wich is proportional to the revolutions. You can use a rectifier circuit and measuere the effective voltage via a/d A resolver is tricky, you need to excite it with a sinus signa

[Emc-users] Raw tachometer input ?

2010-08-19 Thread Rick Calder
I'd like to hook up a tachometer sensor to my mill. My idea is to have emc2 count/process the input stream of pulses and display the rpm on a pyVCP dial. I've tried searching the archives, and cnczone, without finding info on how to implement this. Any ideas ? TIA, Rick --