Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-26 Thread Ian W. Wright
I know my rotary is tiny by comparison with most of your machines but FWIW, I cut my own brass wormwheel using a tap running in the lathe. It took a couple of attempts before I got the right number of teeth for what I wanted but, for cnc, the exact ratio of the worm and wheel is probably not t

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-25 Thread Rob Jansen
The same procedure as Belli Button suggest is indeed standard. Two (half height) gears mounted on top of each other and interlocking the the driving gear to remove the play on the gearing. Easy for standard gears or trapezoid and ball screw axis (two nuts on one axis) but a bit more complex for

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-25 Thread Dave Engvall
of > engineering. We have built some fairly large '4th Axes' like this > for not a > great deal of money. > > Clear as mud? > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kirk Wallace" > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" us...@list

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-25 Thread Belli Button
--- Original Message - From: "Kirk Wallace" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 18:12 +0200, Roland Jollivet wrote: >> What about using an AC motor reductio

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-25 Thread Rainer Schmidt
When you can manage to keep the axis running in one direction the backlash is of no factor. I like the dremel idea. I made a very simple attachment for the Dremel and my Southbend. Beats the $1000+ for the grinding attachment for thw three times I used it. However, I was careful to keep that grit o

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 18:12 +0200, Roland Jollivet wrote: > What about using an AC motor reduction drive. They're pretty robust but I'm > not sure about the backlash. Usually easy to find as surplus. > Something like this; > http://www.bonfiglioli.com/vfpres_uk.html > > Replace the AC motor with a

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-25 Thread Roland Jollivet
What about using an AC motor reduction drive. They're pretty robust but I'm not sure about the backlash. Usually easy to find as surplus. Something like this; http://www.bonfiglioli.com/vfpres_uk.html Replace the AC motor with a stepper. Regards Roland 2009/5/25 Kirk Wallace > I need to sta

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 May 2009, Rainer Schmidt wrote: >Haha.. The Belt Stiffness fools many. It's a PU timing belt which is >steel loaded. I tensioned it to 160lbs and the think sounds like a >guitar string. There is NO flex whatsoever. If there would be... most >cars would sink their valves into the cylind

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-25 Thread Rainer Schmidt
Haha.. The Belt Stiffness fools many. It's a PU timing belt which is steel loaded. I tensioned it to 160lbs and the think sounds like a guitar string. There is NO flex whatsoever. If there would be... most cars would sink their valves into the cylinders more often than not. The ratio is 1:3 and the

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-24 Thread saadp
Nice job! What about the Sherline CNC rotary table? It works great. Isn't it a great affordable product instead of reinventing the wheel? The reason why I am writing this post is the following: no matter how great the hardware is, the BIG limitation lies in the CAM part. It is time to come up

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-24 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
My first rotary axis was built using a harmonic drive gear box, mounted directly on a Brushed DC motor (http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/CNC/4thAxis/4thAxis.htm#assembly). The gearbox is 100:1. I've only done light machining so far, but I think it should be strong enough for my gantry mill. It i

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 21:08 -0400, Rainer Schmidt wrote: > There may be more elaborate versions but here is my ghetto 4th... > http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,11044.0.htm > It has no backlash. Those turntables are all garbage for cnc because > of the backlash. Specially that Phase

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-24 Thread Rainer Schmidt
There may be more elaborate versions but here is my ghetto 4th... http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,11044.0.htm It has no backlash. Those turntables are all garbage for cnc because of the backlash. Specially that Phase II China Junk. It all looks good and costs less but once you try

[Emc-users] Rotary Axis Designs

2009-05-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
I need to start to think about making or getting a rotary axis. The first thing that comes to mind is to adapt a servo and encoder to one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260343949073 What other options should I consider, maybe start from scratch, if so what type of dr