Re: [-empyre-] language/discourse on terror, reporting the virtually true

2014-11-06 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- dear Ana only a short remark, when I am writing about my pain and my memories I am also using literary tools, the body remembers but the language or the brain don't. I read Butler's Frames of War, Agamben's Homo Sacer and The

Re: [-empyre-] language/discourse on terror, reporting the virtually true

2014-11-06 Thread Alicia Migdal
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Gracias, Johannes, por alentarnos a escribir en nuestros idiomas identitarios y no en el omnipresente inglés, y por generar el compromiso de lectura y de escucha que es uno de los temas implícitos en esta situación de pensamiento

Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: para empyre

2014-11-06 Thread Erik Ehn
--empyre- soft-skinned space--[an important array of inquiries, ana. looking forward. to earlier question about the position of the performer/re-performer in the art of testimony... the act of re-presenting, including first person, autobiographical accounts, is to

Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: para empyre

2014-11-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Erik writes, [...] 9/11, as an act of terror, was recognizable because it was a clich? ? we had already seen it. Looking at the live broadcast: ?This must be a movie; this is just like a movie? but really ? ?This is just like a movie

Re: [-empyre-] Antigone's Bones, then backwards

2014-11-06 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- dear all: The following, in response to Pia's post and also Erik's allegorical texts on darkness and theatre, implicitly and directly engages what Alan had asked early on, namely whether there can be artistic responses to terror. What

Re: [-empyre-] language/discourse on terror, reporting the virtually true/para empyre

2014-11-06 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- [Alicia schreibt] Gracias, Johannes, por alentarnos a escribir en nuestros idiomas identitarios y no en el omnipresente inglés, y por generar el compromiso de lectura y de escucha que es uno de los temas implícitos en esta situación de

[-empyre-] Assyrian resonance

2014-11-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- (I sent this to nettime when I started thinking about the history of the region; I have a number of texts and books from the late Armand Schwerner, who worked with the material. I've also been interested in semitic languages and the

Re: [-empyre-] Assyrian resonance

2014-11-06 Thread Erik Ehn
--empyre- soft-skinned space--museveni is known for exerting crowd control by just killing one or two people as a ugandan friend pointed out to me. wade into a crowd, kill a couple of folks, and everybody quiets down or disperses. this doesn't always work, but seems

[-empyre-] either the victim or the killer but never the image

2014-11-06 Thread simon
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Dear empyreans, I know the question of representation has been and will continue to be raised in view of trauma, torture and crisis and I recognise there is hardly a consensus about what it means. There is possibly an operative

Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: para empyre

2014-11-06 Thread Erik Ehn
--empyre- soft-skinned space--yes, you're right... the terroristic act caused real terror... i'm wondering why i said what i said. perhaps - my mind raced to relate it to cliches - part of the design of terror (banality?) - built at such an extreme that we will not

Re: [-empyre-] Assyrian resonance

2014-11-06 Thread Ana Valdés
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- I translated from Swedish to Spanish the testimony of a young indigenous peasant from Guatemala, she walked from her village to the nearby village to borrow some corn. The villages were in the Cuchumatanes mountains, the border between

Re: [-empyre-] Assyrian resonance

2014-11-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- It's disturbing that the same patterns repeat over and over again, that they're successful, that the violence is a useless violence, that everything is so unbearably fragile. We just had elections here, and I sense the violence there

Re: [-empyre-] either the victim or the killer but never the image

2014-11-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hi, a few things. First, on the surface, 'biopower' to me is an odd term, connected with 'biofuel' and so forth - it skitters and deflects. Perhaps I am wrong. The images you speak of slide from the indexical to the ikonic, or both

Re: [-empyre-] language/discourse on terror, reporting the virtually true

2014-11-06 Thread FRITZ Vivian (SAC)
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hola yo he recibido solo en ingles. Si hay un espacio en español o francés, yo participo encantada! Vivian Fritz UFR des Arts Université de Strasbourg www.seuil-lab.com ___ empyre forum

Re: [-empyre-] language/discourse on terror, reporting the virtually true

2014-11-06 Thread Ana Valdés
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Dear Vivian, as Johannes so kindly pointed out we should be able to express ourselves in the language we feel more comfortable or at ease. Querida Vivian, como Johannes lo ha escrito tan simpáticamente, deberíamos poder expresarnos en