Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-21 Thread Alan DeKok
On Nov 21, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Dr. Pala wrote: > > in other environment we had to add the attribute about which ID was actually > authenticated in the final messages because of additional operations that > some network equipment needs to perform that requires the identity of the > supplicant to

Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-21 Thread Dr. Pala
(Aruba Security)' ; 'Alan DeKok' Cc: emu@ietf.org; 'John Mattsson' Subject: Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap- tls13-03.txt -Original Message- From: Emu On Behalf Of Cappalli, Tim (Aruba Security) Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018

Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-14 Thread Jim Schaad
t; From: Emu On Behalf Of Jim Schaad > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:35 AM > To: 'Cappalli, Tim (Aruba Security)' ; 'Alan DeKok' > > Cc: emu@ietf.org; 'John Mattsson' > Subject: Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap- &g

Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-14 Thread Alan DeKok
On Nov 14, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jim Schaad wrote: >> The only way to provide the real identity back to the NAS would be sending it >> back as the IETF User-Name in the Access-Accept with the assumption that >> the NAS would honor it. > > My first response to this would be - what happens as an attack

Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-14 Thread Jim Schaad
> -Original Message- > From: Emu On Behalf Of Cappalli, Tim (Aruba > Security) > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 6:49 AM > To: Alan DeKok > Cc: emu@ietf.org; John Mattsson > Subject: Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap- > tls13-03.t

Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-14 Thread Michael Richardson
Alan DeKok wrote: > For me, I would be fine with making the anonymous NAI mandatory. I > just don't see any end-user benefit to exposing their identities. And > there are benefits to privacy. >> In terms of infrastructure, logging into a wireless controller, switch >>or NMS

Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-14 Thread Alan DeKok
On Nov 14, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Cappalli, Tim (Aruba Security) wrote: > > The question was asked about making it anonymous NAI mandatory in the > Identity Response. That is what my comments were targeted to. OK. For me, I would be fine with making the anonymous NAI mandatory. I just don't

Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-14 Thread Cappalli, Tim (Aruba Security)
The question was asked about making it anonymous NAI mandatory in the Identity Response. That is what my comments were targeted to. In terms of infrastructure, logging into a wireless controller, switch or NMS and seeing hundreds of "anonym...@enterprise.co" makes an administrator's life misera

Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-14 Thread Alan DeKok
On Nov 14, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Cappalli, Tim (Aruba Security) wrote: > > Making it mandatory to use an anonymous NAI will be a huge issue in > enterprise where the infrastructure, device and enterprise identity is owned > by the enterprise. There is no proxy or third party provider. I don't se

Re: [Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-14 Thread Cappalli, Tim (Aruba Security)
Making it mandatory to use an anonymous NAI will be a huge issue in enterprise where the infrastructure, device and enterprise identity is owned by the enterprise. There is no proxy or third party provider. Seeing "anonym...@enterprise.com" across all network infrastructure is not going to be a

[Emu] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03.txt

2018-11-14 Thread John Mattsson
Hi, We have updated the draft according to the discussion and conclusions at IETF 103. - New figure showing the message flow for EAP-TLS client rejection of NewSessionTicket - The draft did not mention that TLS has both warning and fatal alerts. We changed "TLS Alert Message" to " TLS Fata