Re: [E-devel] KiwiIRC callouts

2017-12-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
There is another web based irc client that i know of im not sure if it would be a better alternative for the website. https://qwebirc.org/ Never set it up but used it quite a bit to get on freenode. If the current client is an issue it might be something worth looking at. On 08/12/2017 02:11, Ca

Re: [E-devel] (eolian) @since doc tags on property getters/setters

2017-12-07 Thread Jean-Philippe André
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Jean-Philippe André wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Lauro Moura expertisesolutions.com.br> wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> Currently eolian makes the class members inherit the @since value from the >> class if it is not explicitly defined[1]. This work

Re: [E-devel] (eolian) @since doc tags on property getters/setters

2017-12-07 Thread Jean-Philippe André
Hi, On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Lauro Moura < lauromo...@expertisesolutions.com.br> wrote: > Hi all. > > Currently eolian makes the class members inherit the @since value from the > class if it is not explicitly defined[1]. This works nicely for most things > but may cause some inconsistencie

Re: [E-devel] What are we going to release?

2017-12-07 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 13:45:51 + Andrew Williams said: Without a guarantee of no changes then you don't provide anything stable to build on top of. It's no different to what we do now. We could just say "we think these interfaces are ok now - you can try using them but we might still break them

Re: [E-devel] KiwiIRC callouts

2017-12-07 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 15:09:21 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > Did anyone know that the KiwiIRC client on our website is calling out to > https://www.gosquared.com/ and https://www.scorecardresearch.com/? > Does anyone know if we activated these extensions? I have no idea what > those sites

[E-devel] (eolian) @since doc tags on property getters/setters

2017-12-07 Thread Lauro Moura
Hi all. Currently eolian makes the class members inherit the @since value from the class if it is not explicitly defined[1]. This works nicely for most things but may cause some inconsistencies for getters/setters. For example, if I have a class @since 1.17 and a property @since 1.18, if I don't

Re: [E-devel] Website statistics

2017-12-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I will host at no charge for the project and take care of the server myself if you want andrew I’ll setup a subdomain if my domain eanalytics.eagleeyet.net for example and then give you access to the back end for it Sent from my iPhone > On 07 Dec 2017, at 15:59, Andrew Williams wrote: > > Hi

[E-devel] KiwiIRC callouts

2017-12-07 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, Did anyone know that the KiwiIRC client on our website is calling out to https://www.gosquared.com/ and https://www.scorecardresearch.com/? Does anyone know if we activated these extensions? I have no idea what those sites do or what data they are collecting. Thanks, Andy -- http://andywilli

Re: [E-devel] Website statistics

2017-12-07 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, Thanks for the tip on Piwik, looks decent. To use it for free we would have to self host and I don't think we have time to manage another service unfortunately. As there were no objections I went with GA for now. If anyone thinks they should be or would like to have access to the data it's co

Re: [E-devel] What are we going to release?

2017-12-07 Thread Al Poole
This is my proposal: 1. Move interfaces into a 2.0 branch. 2. Leave major developers working on interfaces in 2.0. 3. Minor devs to work on legacy code fixes, minor features and backports (1.2x) 4. Major devs, one per week, to spend a day helping on legacy EFL. This shouldn't' slow

Re: [E-devel] What are we going to release?

2017-12-07 Thread Andrew Williams
Why does it have to be black and white? releasing does not "guarantee no changes", it probably does need to guarantee backward compatibility. The challenge I see with our current situation is that we have published "beta" which is not even close to stable and now don't have a clear next step to get

Re: [E-devel] What are we going to release?

2017-12-07 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 08:54:05 + Andrew Williams said: so what applications can you build only with efl core and efl net and nothing else? zero applications will be built with these. it will not be tested. history tells me so. BUT it will tie our hands in making changes. so what value does thi

Re: [E-devel] What are we going to release?

2017-12-07 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, To say that it is publicly available behind a BETA flag is one thing, but to call it a Beta Release is quite a stretch. To reference The Next Generation Lexicon: "Beta phase generally begins when the software is feature complete but likely to contain a number of known or unknown bugs.". Given