Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 11:30:58 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > As this thread seems to be descending into word games and (insert > appropriate word) contests I will reiterate my concern: > > efl_add is inconsistent and that should be addressed. do it's not. i explained already that it is n

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 11:26:42 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > Thanks for posting that poll. Very useful. > If I may I wish to contradict your assertion that this has all been > discussed before - the poll had *0* consideration for what if parent is > NULL. i don't see why it needed to. NUL

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 11:19:59 + Andrew Williams said: > As framework developers we should be doing everything in our power to avoid > undefined behaviour. I’ll take accidents memory leaks any day - there are a > plethora of tools to solve that but it’s far harder to debug the “app not > workin

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] feature/meson 01/01: meson: add inital eina support

2017-12-23 Thread Vincent Torri
first, i removed the compilation with Visual Studio for several reasons 1) it's a huge work to maintain 2 build systems (so only one using MSYS2 for POSIX tools (hence autotools for example) and mingw-w64 for cross compilation) 2) there are gcc extensions that are used in ecore_getopt which are no

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] feature/meson 01/01: meson: add inital eina support

2017-12-23 Thread marcel-hollerbach
There is some work going on for windows, i tried to reach you this week because of this. I tried two things: 1) Crosscompiling: it failed in the end due to a very very weird error message: ./config.h:10:17: Fehler: expected unqualified-id before string constant #define DATADIR "/usr/local/share

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2017-12-23 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, As this thread seems to be descending into word games and (insert appropriate word) contests I will reiterate my concern: efl_add is inconsistent and that should be addressed. I hope that is clear enough Andy On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 at 13:15, Andrew Williams wrote: > Hi, > > This is now well

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2017-12-23 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, Thanks for posting that poll. Very useful. If I may I wish to contradict your assertion that this has all been discussed before - the poll had *0* consideration for what if parent is NULL. If you re-read the accepted proposal you will see that is not the current behaviour at all. There is a (r

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-23 Thread Pierre Couderc
On 12/23/2017 09:56 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: On 12/19/2017 09:44 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep = multidimensional grep). With legacy API. The more there are EFL apps, the be

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2017-12-23 Thread Andrew Williams
As framework developers we should be doing everything in our power to avoid undefined behaviour. I’ll take accidents memory leaks any day - there are a plethora of tools to solve that but it’s far harder to debug the “app not working correctly sometimes on my system” bug reports. Andy On Sat, 23

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:44:32 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > I think your summary about the Gtk is not what you think - read the docs > further > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkWindow.html#gtk-window-new and > you see that actually the trivial example leaks the reference - just

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:53:32 + Andrew Williams said: > We do have a showstopper design bug. see my previous mail. https://phab.enlightenment.org/V7 to be explicit. discussed. voted on. known compromise. lots of code built on top of that design decision. not a showstopper by any stretch. it's

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:19:40 -0500 Cedric Bail said: > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion > > Local Time: December 21, 2017 7:18 PM > > UTC Time: December 22, 2017 3:18 AM > > From: ras...@rasterman.com > > To: Enlightenment developer list >

Re: [E-devel] is there a roadmap for future significative improvements/changes

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 17:56:54 +0100 Vincent Torri said: > hello > > i've recently seen this gtk roadmap : > https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GTK%2B/Roadmap/GTK4 > > is there the same for EFL ? https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5301 specifically for eo/interfaces. there's parallel work for waylan

Re: [E-devel] is there a roadmap for future significative improvements/changes

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:54:02 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi Vincent, > > I would really love this too - in fact I have been pushing for it. I > suggest regularly that it would be helpful to have a roadmap. On my most > recent request I was told bluntly “too much effort, you are the only person

Re: [E-devel] ecore / efl loop work

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:09:37 -0500 Cedric Bail said: > Original Message > > > Subject: [E-devel] ecore / efl loop work > > Local Time: December 14, 2017 9:30 PM > > UTC Time: December 15, 2017 5:30 AM > > From: ras...@rasterman.com > > To: e > > > > I've been working on this f

Re: [E-devel] ecore / efl loop work

2017-12-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:58:37 -0500 Cedric Bail said: > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] ecore / efl loop work > > Local Time: December 20, 2017 5:30 PM > > UTC Time: December 21, 2017 1:30 AM > > From: ras...@rasterman.com > > To: Andrew Williams > > Enlightenment

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] feature/meson 01/01: meson: add inital eina support

2017-12-23 Thread Vincent Torri
andwindows ? (including evil) On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 8:12 PM, wrote: > This is the first stage for porting efl to meson! > > Right now this should work on osx, *bsd, and linux. > > I plan to rebase the branch every friday, so if there are things you > want to push, please do this before friday

Re: [E-devel] [Efl-technical-documentation] Site statistics

2017-12-23 Thread Vincent Torri
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > On 12/19/2017 09:44 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: >>> >>> >>> I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep = >>> multidimensional grep). >>> With legacy API. >>> >> The more there are EFL apps, the better. >> >> But the pro