Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
Dmitry Rashkeev said: > By the way, this has already been done. I'm not sure how well > it works > (I don't have e17 installed as of now, and don't feel like > experimenting, but I'm sure some of you might be interested: > > http://www.freewebs.com/markulrich/expose2/index.htm Seems a start.. Hav

Re: [e-users] New Enlightenment user questions

2005-07-22 Thread Pablo Wolter
I already check it but the manual way to create apps icons is not working for me and the GUI way when I have to select the icon file in the right side I dont see the files (and there are files) Pablo. Felix Boecker wrote: >check out the tutorial on www.get-e.org > > > --

[e-users] Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] R e: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Justin
Felix Boecker wrote: I used e16 for about 5 minutes before being so amazed that I just had to upgrade to e17 already so I'm not sure what exactly I'm talking about, but ... e16 has a task manager or something in the bottom left corner that displays the windows and also window contents ... ho

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
Felix Boecker said: > I used e16 for about 5 minutes before being so amazed that I > just had to upgrade to e17 already so I'm not sure what exactly > I'm talking about, but ... e16 has a task manager or something > in the bottom left corner that displays the windows and also > window contents ..

[e-users] Re: [e-users] Re : [e-users] Expo sé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Felix Boecker
I used e16 for about 5 minutes before being so amazed that I just had to upgrade to e17 already so I'm not sure what exactly I'm talking about, but ... e16 has a task manager or something in the bottom left corner that displays the windows and also window contents ... how are those window conte

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Dmitry Rashkeev
Yes, composite is a new extention to X, much like Render (which does onscreen rendering of antialiased fonts). It was created by X.org for the X11R6.8 release. It's slightly slow on most machines right now, except a few fast radeons. It can be used for things like real shadows from windows (that ge

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
Dmitry Rashkeev said: > Now, if we wait long enough for the composite extention to get > wide > acceptance/driver support/not corrupt the root window, then e, > as well > as any other app that uses X, should have access to the > offscreen > buffer. Which would actually let us do this sort of thin

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
Christian Engels said: > Ok but the "!we take a screenshot and draw it"-method is used > in amny > programms (skippy, kompose) it will work so, but it is not "the > real thing". > It would definitely be something to start with. Optimizations and new features could come after. Probably after knowi

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
Christian Pedaschus said: > Because if the content of a window is fully themable, there > also should > be the possibility to adjust the size of all elements inside > the window, > at least i understand it this way... (?) > Rasterman (or someone else with the needed knowledge), plz show > us the

[e-users] New Enlightenment user questions

2005-07-22 Thread Pablo Wolter
Hi, I just installed E17 and found the graphs and disign cool and very well done but I was unable to make things work easly for me. I was familiar with Gnome, and I want to use those apps in E17, I know that is possible but I found frustrating to buils any icon or shortcut for each of my favorite

Re: [e-users] Shortcut keys not working after GTK2 app close

2005-07-22 Thread Kim Woelders
Jansen Gotis wrote: Hello everyone, My keybindings stop working after I close any GTK2 app. I am using Enlightenment 16 CVS, last update was 2005/07/22 10:30AM PHT: e16 --version Enlightenment 0.16.8 - $Date: 2005/07/11 20:18:58 $ I see this behavior when I do either of the following: 1.

Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Dmitry Rashkeev
By the way, this has already been done. I'm not sure how well it works (I don't have e17 installed as of now, and don't feel like experimenting, but I'm sure some of you might be interested: http://www.freewebs.com/markulrich/expose2/index.htm I got this off the edevel mailing forums.http://thegr

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Dmitry Rashkeev
Christian Pedaschus wrote: >For me this sounds as if e knows exactly what's inside the window... > > Well, yes and no. E knows everything that goes on inside a window using edje. Which doesn't include such goodies and common programs as mozilla firefox, the beagle search interface, and evolution

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Christian Pedaschus
Hmmm... x and e are different worlds (but i'm also no expert, still far away) [snippet] Edje provides a revolutionary library and tool set for /completely/ abstracting application interfaces from their code, including a complex and flexible method of designing interfaces [/snippet] For me this so

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Christian Engels
As far as i know this is not possible. EFL can only control what EFL draws. Everything in a Window is drawn by the app and it's libraries. Thats what i mean with "E17 doesn't knwo what is in the window". It just know: "aha this is the app firefox with this position..." I am not a developer but

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Christian Pedaschus
Agreed, see my message from 17:22. Greets, Chris Christian Engels wrote: >Ok but the "!we take a screenshot and draw it"-method is used in amny >programms (skippy, kompose) it will work so, but it is not "the real thing". > >If you want this to implement in e17 it will be all right (and efl w

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Christian Engels
Ok but the "!we take a screenshot and draw it"-method is used in amny programms (skippy, kompose) it will work so, but it is not "the real thing". If you want this to implement in e17 it will be all right (and efl will help you with the images i think). Perhaps you can implement it as a modul,

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Christian Pedaschus
Thx Paulo, but as said, it's just an idea, no solution. And in the spirit of DR17 ('best code quality'), this surely would be a real dirty hack, but on the other side it would be quite fast to implement, i guess... The best solution of course, would be, if E can resize the window on it's on, witho

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
Christian Pedaschus said: > PS. Just read the message from Christian Engels and i think, > that this > should be no > problem. > As an Idea: The windows don't need to be refreshed while > showing them in > epose (would be nice, but is not needed for the functionality) > , so it > would(?) be enoug

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Christian Pedaschus
Cool idea, Thomas :) I'm not a C developer, but i would be willing to become a tester and (try to) write "high quality feedback reports". Cause something like expose is the only thing i'm missing in the actual dr17 development stage (not that it is absolutely needed, but it would be a timesaver in

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
Christian Engels said: > Is a Expose possible? > Because the Main feature of Expose is, that it knows the > Content in the > Window. E17 does not know. So you can't get the same Effect. > What do you mean by Exposé "knows" the content in the window? And why would a task switcher need that? Paulo

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
> - Worker bees > > People willing to contribute to the code, all different > levels of > experience welcome. > Proud to share my C programming skills with E17 to work on this project as a working bee :D. Paulo Matos > - Testers > > Even if you don't feel ready to do some coding you may be

Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Christian Engels
Is a Expose possible? Because the Main feature of Expose is, that it knows the Content in the Window. E17 does not know. So you can't get the same Effect. What you can do is: -make all Windows smaller (that is different from only Render them smaller, the Content will change, a good example is a

[e-users] Re: [e-users] Exposé for E17

2005-07-22 Thread Thomas Kleinbauer
So, I really have no clue at all about the e17 internals, but I do have some programming experience and would be willing to participate in an effort to create something like Exposé for e17. But I think, somebody with a more profound insight into the libraries would be needed to lead such a project,

[e-users] DR17 locales problem

2005-07-22 Thread Jackob McRose
Hi, I have some questions about localization in DR17... I know it is not too important now, but if there is way to handle it... 1) whatever I start it has problems with locales... There are few error messages i get : --- (gaim:8249): G

Re: [e-users] e16 Composite manager problem

2005-07-22 Thread phriedrich
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:18:40 -0700 Dmitry Rashkeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > Sweet! So I have a unique bug? No. I've got a similar here... I use xorg's own driver for my Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (<-- from lspci) and either it's working correctly but with very high cpu-usage (abou

Re: [e-users] e16 CVS: pager problem/xv grab problem

2005-07-22 Thread Martin Zwickel
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:19:55 +0200 Kim Woelders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bubbled: > Martin Zwickel wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Since a few weeks the pager has a bug (at least here;)), the tooltip > > text is not cleared on the screen. Also sometimes the mini snapshots > > are always ontop (have a look at t