Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-03-02 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 15:05:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 10:19:40 +1000 David Seikel > said: > > > On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:56:45 -0500 mh wrote: > > > > > On 03/01/2014 09:56 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 09:40:08

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-03-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 10:19:40 +1000 David Seikel said: > On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:56:45 -0500 mh wrote: > > > On 03/01/2014 09:56 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 09:40:08 -0500 mh said: > > > > > >> On 02/19/2014 06:10 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > > >>> On 19

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-03-02 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:56:45 -0500 mh wrote: > On 03/01/2014 09:56 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 09:40:08 -0500 mh said: > > > >> On 02/19/2014 06:10 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > >>> On 19.02.2014 21:53, mh wrote: > On 02/19/2014 01:46 AM, Carsten Hait

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-03-02 Thread mh
On 03/01/2014 09:56 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 09:40:08 -0500 mh said: > >> On 02/19/2014 06:10 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote: >>> On 19.02.2014 21:53, mh wrote: On 02/19/2014 01:46 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:38

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-03-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 09:40:08 -0500 mh said: > On 02/19/2014 06:10 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > > On 19.02.2014 21:53, mh wrote: > >> On 02/19/2014 01:46 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:38:53 +0900 Florian Schaefer > >>> said: > >>> > OK, I think I f

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-03-01 Thread mh
On 02/19/2014 06:10 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > On 19.02.2014 21:53, mh wrote: >> On 02/19/2014 01:46 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:38:53 +0900 Florian Schaefer >>> said: >>> OK, I think I figured out part of the mystery: My E is installed to /

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-21 Thread mh
On 02/19/2014 06:10 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > On 19.02.2014 21:53, mh wrote: >> On 02/19/2014 01:46 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:38:53 +0900 Florian Schaefer >>> said: >>> OK, I think I figured out part of the mystery: My E is installed to /

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-19 Thread Florian Schaefer
On 19.02.2014 21:53, mh wrote: > On 02/19/2014 01:46 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:38:53 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: >> >>> OK, I think I figured out part of the mystery: My E is installed to >>> /opt/e. Hence also the efreet dbus service files finished up

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-19 Thread mh
On 02/19/2014 01:46 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:38:53 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > >> OK, I think I figured out part of the mystery: My E is installed to >> /opt/e. Hence also the efreet dbus service files finished up in this >> location and my dbus was,

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-19 Thread Florian Schaefer
On 19.02.2014 15:46, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:38:53 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > >> OK, I think I figured out part of the mystery: My E is installed to >> /opt/e. Hence also the efreet dbus service files finished up in this >> location and my dbus was, of

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:38:53 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > OK, I think I figured out part of the mystery: My E is installed to > /opt/e. Hence also the efreet dbus service files finished up in this > location and my dbus was, of course, not picking up those files. Now > I've symlinked them to a

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-18 Thread Florian Schaefer
OK, I think I figured out part of the mystery: My E is installed to /opt/e. Hence also the efreet dbus service files finished up in this location and my dbus was, of course, not picking up those files. Now I've symlinked them to a proper location, E can talk with Efreet, icon themes show up and mos

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-18 Thread Florian Schaefer
Hello David! On 18.02.2014 21:15, David Seikel wrote: [...] >> I agree, that could be at it's heart. So now the question is how to >> make E recognize my icon theme. Is there some file in which the >> available themes are listed? Or according to which kind of black >> magic is that determined? >

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:43:18 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > On 18.02.2014 18:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > [...] > >> That's an excellent point. My Icons theme list is empty. I have, > >> however, the gnome-icon-theme deb package installed. What am I missing > >> for it to show up

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-18 Thread P Purkayastha
On 02/18/2014 12:08 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > On 18.02.2014 12:22, P Purkayastha wrote: > [...] >> Latest git has got window focus issues. Stay away from git if you want >> stable software. Most stable is the latest e17 release. I would hold e18 >> releases as next in stability. > > But then pe

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-18 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:43:18 +0900 Florian Schaefer wrote: > On 18.02.2014 18:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > [...] > >> That's an excellent point. My Icons theme list is empty. I have, > >> however, the gnome-icon-theme deb package installed. What am I > >> missing for it to show u

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-18 Thread Florian Schaefer
On 18.02.2014 18:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: [...] >> That's an excellent point. My Icons theme list is empty. I have, >> however, the gnome-icon-theme deb package installed. What am I missing >> for it to show up on the icons theme list? > > well i suspect that is your core proble

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:20:22 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > > > On 18.02.2014 15:42, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:50:58 +0900 Florian Schaefer > > said: > > > >> On 18.02.2014 11:34, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:47:

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:36:13 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > On 18.02.2014 15:44, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:01:22 +0900 Florian Schaefer > > said: > > > >> Hi Cedric! > >> > >> On 18.02.2014 10:51, Cedric BAIL wrote: > >> [...] > >>> So you did destroy ~/

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Florian Schaefer
On 18.02.2014 15:44, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:01:22 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > >> Hi Cedric! >> >> On 18.02.2014 10:51, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> [...] >>> So you did destroy ~/.cache/efreet/ ? Did you try to manually run >>> efreet_desktop_cache_create aft

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Florian Schaefer
On 18.02.2014 15:42, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:50:58 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > >> On 18.02.2014 11:34, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:47:42 +0900 Florian Schaefer >>> said: >>> Hi Jeff, are you hones

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:01:22 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > Hi Cedric! > > On 18.02.2014 10:51, Cedric BAIL wrote: > [...] > > So you did destroy ~/.cache/efreet/ ? Did you try to manually run > > efreet_desktop_cache_create afterward (can be found in > > /usr/lib/efreet/v-1.9/) ? I saw that pro

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:50:58 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > On 18.02.2014 11:34, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:47:42 +0900 Florian Schaefer > > said: > > > >> Hi Jeff, > >> > >> are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback > >> on t

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:08:28 +0900 Florian Schaefer wrote: > On 18.02.2014 12:22, P Purkayastha wrote: > [...] > > Latest git has got window focus issues. Stay away from git if you > > want stable software. Most stable is the latest e17 release. I > > would hold e18 releases as next in stability.

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:36:13 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:51:35 +0900 Cedric BAIL > said: > > > Hello, > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Jeff Hoogland > > wrote: > > > Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've > > > compil

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Florian Schaefer
Hi there! On 18.02.2014 12:39, mh wrote: [...] > Another possibility for the missing icons is apparently an efreet bug. I > filled out a phab bug report on this: > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T870 Yes, seems to be the same thing. I actually knew that you reported this before and that you w

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Florian Schaefer
On 18.02.2014 12:22, P Purkayastha wrote: [...] > Latest git has got window focus issues. Stay away from git if you want > stable software. Most stable is the latest e17 release. I would hold e18 > releases as next in stability. But then people are also writing "don't use e17, it's old as hell".

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Florian Schaefer
Hi Cedric! On 18.02.2014 10:51, Cedric BAIL wrote: [...] > So you did destroy ~/.cache/efreet/ ? Did you try to manually run > efreet_desktop_cache_create afterward (can be found in > /usr/lib/efreet/v-1.9/) ? I saw that problem once in the past week, > and Carsten to, but it did vanish after a re

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Florian Schaefer
On 18.02.2014 11:34, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:47:42 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > >> Hi Jeff, >> >> are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback >> on the software he loves to use in order to help turning it into a >> better produ

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread mh
On 02/17/2014 10:22 PM, P Purkayastha wrote: > On 02/18/2014 08:20 AM, Florian Schaefer wrote: >> One of them is related to window focus. I use sloppy focus and ever so >> often it goes astray: I have, e.g., a java application, Pauker, that at >> some point emits some kind of "alert", getting the f

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread P Purkayastha
On 02/18/2014 08:20 AM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > One of them is related to window focus. I use sloppy focus and ever so > often it goes astray: I have, e.g., a java application, Pauker, that at > some point emits some kind of "alert", getting the focus. However, the > window is at that time on ano

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:20:19 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > Hello enlightenment, > > thanks to everybody for their hard efforts in developing this amazing > piece of software. Been using E for 10+ years now (I guess). Though, > lately it is making my life a bit more difficult (to say the least)

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:47:42 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > Hi Jeff, > > are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback > on the software he loves to use in order to help turning it into a > better product? ;-) don't worry florian... we care. what we would like is if you

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:51:35 +0900 Cedric BAIL said: > Hello, > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Jeff Hoogland > wrote: > > Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled > > from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent > > software use the *re

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Jeff Hoogland
Sure, we need people testing things. If you want to provide feedback that is useful you should be filing bug reports on Phab -> phab.enlightenment.org You ARE going to have issues with compiling from GIT though. It is unstable by design. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote:

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Cedric BAIL
Hello, On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: > Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled > from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent > software use the *releases*. They are there for a reason. I will disagree with you here

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Florian Schaefer
Hi Jeff, are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback on the software he loves to use in order to help turning it into a better product? ;-) So you propose that all my issues will be solved just by using e-0.18.3 and efl-1.8.5? If so I will give it a shot. It's just tha

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Jeff Hoogland
Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent software use the *releases*. They are there for a reason. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > Hello enlightenment, > > thanks to eve

[e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

2014-02-17 Thread Florian Schaefer
Hello enlightenment, thanks to everybody for their hard efforts in developing this amazing piece of software. Been using E for 10+ years now (I guess). Though, lately it is making my life a bit more difficult (to say the least) and I am getting to the point where I seriously considered switching t