RE: [Spam] RE: EOS posts & New D30n

2007-02-08 Thread Bob Wise
I enjoyed my 10D - http://www.amazon.com/Canon-EOS-10D-6-3MP-Digital-Camera/dp/B8OT2G For $<500 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:15 AM To: EOS list Subject: Re: [Spam] RE: EOS posts & New D3

RE: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model?

2007-02-08 Thread Tom Pfeiffer
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Read > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:20 AM > To: eos@a1.nl > Subject: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model? > > Hi, > > I'm fairly new here so perhaps this is a bit off-topic, but I've > a

Re: EOS Return with us now - - - -

2007-02-08 Thread Jane Waters
--- Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope , It's not the Lone Ranger! > > According to an item in the March 2007 issue of Outdoor Photographer, > Fujifilm is planning on bringing back ISO 50 Fujichrome Velvia. > According to the item, they have found a way to use new materials and > proces

RE: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model? - and Lens size

2007-02-08 Thread Tom Pfeiffer
> PMA 07 is March 8-11 in Las Vegas, NV. > > Just my luck, I have to be in Dallas that weekend :-( > > And while the 5D price might go down the replacement price will be high > for a few months.. > > Bob > Well, hey, if you get any free time while you're here, we could go out and get som

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Tom Pfeiffer
> > -- > Jim Davis, Owner, Eastern Beaver Company: > http://easternbeaver.com/ Motorcycle Relay Kits, > Modulator Kits, Powerlet, Centech, Posi-Lock, Parts. > 1988 K100RS SE ABS in Japan. 1991 ST1100 in America. > STOC#6327, IBMWR, KBMW > * With all the hot mail flying about, I'm surprised no o

RE: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model? - and Lens size

2007-02-08 Thread Tom Pfeiffer
> > The annual PMA (Photo Marketing Association) show occurs, I believe, in > early March. New products are commonly introduced there, and often > announced > a week or two before the show. That's close enough that I would wait to > see > if anything is announced and if not, then I'd buy the 5D.

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Ken, > The format of the post is the List Owner's wish, you don't have > to join this > list if you don't want to follow the List Owner's rules. I didn't hear him say it was a "rule" that there should not be any top postings. Here is what he said: "There is no punishment/filtering on reverse

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Jim, > >I have, and your being really insulting to people. You probably don't > >care...but if you at all do, think about that. > > I thought I was done with this, but I can't help replying that. I agree, but seems like the timing of some posts, as they are delayed. Regards, Austin * *

EOS Return with us now - - - -

2007-02-08 Thread Bob
Nope , It's not the Lone Ranger! According to an item in the March 2007 issue of Outdoor Photographer, Fujifilm is planning on bringing back ISO 50 Fujichrome Velvia. According to the item, they have found a way to use new materials and processes to bring what is tentatively to be called Ve

Re: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model? - and Lens size

2007-02-08 Thread Bob
Larry wrote: The annual PMA (Photo Marketing Association) show occurs, I believe, in early March. New products are commonly introduced there, and often announced a week or two before the show. That's close enough that I would wait to see if anything is announced and if not, then I'd buy the 5D.

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Ken Lin
> > I am going to follow the list owner's rules so I don't need to read > anymore debates about top post, bottom post or anything of similar > nature. I see this mess is still going on, so just ONE last post to my ONE answer above. The format of the post is the List Owner's wish, you don't have

EOS One more try - clean message I hope makes it through

2007-02-08 Thread bob
FOURTH try (very sorry for the repeats for those who have already seen this): Hand-held (braced) two-exposure HDR, 5D w/24-70L, B&W post processing http://www.bobsplanet.com/serendipity/archives/155-Pike-Street-in-BW.html Same shooting session as above (been foggy in Seattle lately): http://www.

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread James B . Davis
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:31:59 -0500, "Austin Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote/replied to: >> No Jane, it's not enough to bottom post. You have to trim the >> quoted material >> above it so that the reader doesn't have to scroll way down. > >And...when top posting, you can trim the material on the

RE: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model? - and Lens size

2007-02-08 Thread Henning Wulff
At 10:25 AM -0600 2/8/07, Larry wrote: > I'm fairly new here so perhaps this is a bit off-topic, but I've actually got a question about an EOS camera. :) I'm contemplating buying a 5d, which seems like a pretty good deal with Canon's $600 rebate on top of B&H's low price. The annual PMA (P

Re: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread James B . Davis
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:30:37 -0800, "bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote/replied to: >Comments welcome top or bottom posted! :-) Your post was a complete mess of quoted and non quoted so I didn't bother trying to figure it out, sorry. -- Jim Davis, Owner, Eastern Beaver Company: http://easternbeaver.

RE: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread bob
Hi Jane, I reposted the message with a new subject a while ago... if it doesn't show up soon I'll repost it again. No special footer on it as it was a fresh posting so hopefully it will go through. -Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ja

RE: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread bob
Ok, since replying to this works, I'll try it this way... (third try): Hand-held (braced) two-exposure HDR, 5D w/24-70L, B&W post processing http://www.bobsplanet.com/serendipity/archives/155-Pike-Street-in-BW.html Same shooting session as above (been foggy in Seattle lately): http://www.bobspl

RE: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread bob
OK, so the fresh new message I sent in with my photo links doesn't show up, and this message does. What gives? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:31 PM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: RE: EOS enough already Hi

Re: EOS Re: New D30n & Self Cleaning Sensor

2007-02-08 Thread Jane Waters
--- Wayne S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've tried the VisibleDust brush, the SensorSwab, the CO2 Duster, and > the PecPad on plastic with methanol. The CO2 duster and the PecPad > works the best for me. I have yet to try the ionizer approach. And I just > can't seem to the the VisibleDust br

RE: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread Jane Waters
Bob, Maybe it only shows up when the post is in the correct position within the prior email uh-oh there I go again, posting in the wrong place and bring up that well-worn topic :-) I await the post with your links with great anticipation, knowing it will keep me busy for hours when I s

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Willem-Jan Markerink
On 8 Feb 2007 at 10:14, Austin Franklin wrote: > BTW, I get chastised on some lists for my style of "intra-posting". Only a matter of time before they will complain about hard to read/type capitals, dots and comma's. Better brace yourself for the things to come:)) Btw, 'intra-posting' isn'

EOS Re: New D30n & Self Cleaning Sensor

2007-02-08 Thread Wayne S
At 12:47 PM 2/8/2007, Robert asked: > >The main reason I would wait for the next release is for the self cleaning >sensor. Does anybody have experience with it? How well does it work? I've had experience with the Olympus E-1 and the 5D. The effectiveness of the E-1 is in part, keeping the dust fur

RE: [Spam] RE: EOS posts & New D30n

2007-02-08 Thread Robert M.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:15 AM To: EOS list Subject: Re: [Spam] RE: EOS posts & New D30n >On 7/2/07, Robert M., discombobulated, unleashed: >>Unfortunately, I >>can't afford the 5D but I

Re: [Spam] RE: EOS posts & New D30n

2007-02-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/2/07, Robert M., discombobulated, unleashed: >Unfortunately, I >can't afford the 5D but I am considering the D30 or its successor. That'll be the D60 - you can pick one up for a song ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysn

Re: EOS TAN: Sekonic L-758, light meter?

2007-02-08 Thread Wayne S
At 09:44 AM 2/8/2007, Bruce wrote: >This brings up a very interesting question. How many use a separate light >meter? and under what conditions? I have a Sekonic L508, but have not used it in years. With the ability to shoot and look at a display, the L508 has fallen into the box with little use

Fw: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread wilber
Oh My God! What other meaningless minutiae can we think of to waist time talking about! I thought this was a Canon EOS list?!? People have the courtesy to read it top or bottom and get off it already!! Now can we talk about Cameras!!! This is starting to sound like the Leica Users Group! Wilb

RE: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread Jane Waters
--- bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, I posted what I though were some nice photo links, and folks would > rather yammer on about top vs bottom posting. Sigh. Yes, you did, and in MY efforts to delete all these silly posts, I tossed the links for the images. Would you mind resurrecting

EOS RE: New D30n & Self Cleaning Sensor

2007-02-08 Thread Robert M.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lars Michael Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:41 AM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: Re: [Spam] RE: EOS posts & New D30n >> Anyways, I still only have an analog camera (1n). I was considering for a >> long time to g

EOS Thank You - Cheerio

2007-02-08 Thread Bob Turner
Every year or so, along comes someone who refuses to abide by the list rules and they cannot accept that this list has run smoothly for years(thanks mainly to W-JM and others) and they refuse to listen to established members. I'd like to thank everyone here for their help and assistance over th

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread klin
Personally, I am going to ignore and delete all current and future EOS list e-mails with the "EOS posts" subject line. I am going to follow the list owner's rules so I don't need to read anymore debates about top post, bottom post or anything of similar nature. I would just ask one favour of

Re: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread Bob
Schlake (William Colburn) wrote: Yea, and what matters is a 600mm f/4 IS. I just can't quite justify spending that money myself. So which one of you will buy it for me? Will you let me use it now and then? Bob -- / ( O O ) --

Re: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread Bob
K. Michael Rose wrote: Sorry to but in on this highly educational material, but I really need to ask a question: Can we just knock this off and get back to what matters?!?!?!? You people really have too much time on your hands! Might be the c c c cold near zero temps keeping people at their

Re: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread Jane Waters
--- "Schlake (William Colburn)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:19:24AM -0500, K. Michael Rose wrote: > >Sorry to but in on this highly educational material, but I really need to > >ask a question: > > > >Can we just knock this off and get back to what matters?!?!?!? > > >

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Jane Waters
ON A CLOSING NOTE --- "James B.Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You said "Sure takes a lot of time to cut and paste in..." - sorry Jane it > does > not. What part of this thread are you losing right now? DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS, Jim. (sorry for the caps lock... I'm onl

RE: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread bob
Also, I posted what I though were some nice photo links, and folks would rather yammer on about top vs bottom posting. Sigh. My suggestion: Each new posting on top/bottom posting must be accompanied by at least one post of photographic value. :-) -bw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROT

Re: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread wilber
I guess the web master didn't like my reply to this top and bottom thing- or else it is lost in the great neverness. Wilber - Original Message - From: "Schlake (William Colburn)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Re: EOS enough already On Th

RE: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model?

2007-02-08 Thread Austin Franklin
Here is what I've heard about a rumored new Canon digital model: "I'm curious to see if the rumored Canon sensor with no Bayer filter actually comes out this month. The new camera is supposed to be announced the 28th of this month, as I recall, and shown at the PMA show next month." "Canon is ca

Re: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model?

2007-02-08 Thread Bob
Robert Read wrote: Hi, I'm fairly new here so perhaps this is a bit off topic, but I've actually got a question about an EOS camera. :) I'm contemplating buying a 5d, which seems like a pretty good deal with Canon's $600 rebate on top of B&H's low price. (I bought a 50mm lens a couple m

RE: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model? - and Lens size

2007-02-08 Thread Larry
> I'm fairly new here so perhaps this is a bit off-topic, but I've > actually got a question about an EOS camera. :) I'm contemplating > buying a 5d, which seems like a pretty good deal with Canon's $600 > rebate on top of B&H's low price. The annual PMA (Photo Marketing Association) show occurs,

Re: [Spam] RE: EOS posts & New D30n

2007-02-08 Thread Lars Michael
> Anyways, I still only have an analog camera (1n). I was considering for a > long time to go digital and I might FINALLY just do it. Unfortunately, I > can't afford the 5D but I am considering the D30 or its successor. Has > anybody any idea when the D30n/D40 will come? I reckon you are talking a

Re: EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread Schlake (William Colburn)
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:19:24AM -0500, K. Michael Rose wrote: >Sorry to but in on this highly educational material, but I really need to >ask a question: > >Can we just knock this off and get back to what matters?!?!?!? > >You people really have too much time on your hands! Yea, and what matter

Re: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model?

2007-02-08 Thread Lars Michael
As far as megapixel go, the 12.8 MP of the 5D is probably more than you'll ever need. (It translates to nearly 10"x15" at 300dpi without resizing.) A well executed digital photograph can be enlarged with care quite significantly. I have a 12"x18" 360dpi print made from a 3 MP RAW file (D30 I th

RE: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model?

2007-02-08 Thread Bob Wise
Get the 5d - you won't be sorry. Even if the 6D or 3D or whatever it is comes out soon you will not "have" to upgrade, and in any case the 5D will hold decent value for quite a while if you decide to sell it for an upgrade. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Jim, > I disagree simply because experience with top posters has shown > me a real lack > of content in general. Does that mean they are illiterate? Maybe > not, but it > means they are in a rush and don't care. That's not a valid conclusion. You don't know for a fact they arein a rush and do

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread wilber
Oh My God! What other meaningless minutiae can we think of to waist time talking about! I thought this was a Canon EOS list?!? People have the courtesy to read it top or bottom and get off it already!! Now can we talk about Cameras!!! This is starting to sound like the Leica Users Group! Wilbe

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Tapani Tarvainen
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:43:37AM -0500, Austin Franklin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > ...but how many people on this > list have a less than 56k Internet connection? I for one frequently read email over mobile phone when traveling, with real speed in sub-20k range, even though I do have fast

EOS enough already

2007-02-08 Thread K. Michael Rose
Sorry to but in on this highly educational material, but I really need to ask a question: Can we just knock this off and get back to what matters?!?!?!? You people really have too much time on your hands! Michael * *** *** * For

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Wilber, > What other meaningless minutiae can we think of to waist time > talking about! I don't have any suggestions for meaningless minutiae to waste time talking about, but if you give me enough time, I'm sure I could come up with something. How about you? Any suggestions? ;-) BUT...one

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Jim, > No Jane, it's not enough to bottom post. You have to trim the > quoted material > above it so that the reader doesn't have to scroll way down. And...when top posting, you can trim the material on the bottom equally as easily. > I have lots of corporates who don't know any better, but t

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread James B . Davis
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:36:25 -0500, "Austin Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote/replied to: >People who top-post are not necessarily "illiterate", there is an equal >chance of bottom-posters being illiterate as well. To you, bottom posts are >"neat and easy to read", to me they are not. It's a ma

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi James, > Top posting bothers me but it's > pretty obvious > that top posters believe they are in the right and have no > intention to change. It's not that I believe I'm "right", but that I'm not wrong. There is a significant difference. You believe you're right, and there is no other way bu

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Willem-Jan, > > I am on probably 20 lists, a majority of them camera lists. This is the > > only list where anyone has brought up the "netiquette" of > bottom-posting. > > Every other mailing list I'm on doesn't care, and it's never > been brought > > up, even though the majority (like %90++)

Re: EOS TAN: Sekonic L-758, light meter?

2007-02-08 Thread balobo
This brings up a very interesting question. How many use a separate light meter? and under what conditions? I use one, an old cheap one, for ambient light when concerned about background. Bruce * *** *** * For list instructions, in

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Tapani Tarvainen
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:31:59AM -0500, Austin Franklin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >...when top posting, you can trim the material on the bottom equally as > easily. Yet for whatever reason, almost nobody ever does. At least that's my experience: top posters almost always include the original

RE: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Austin Franklin
Jim, > I see you bottom posted, that's great. If you had top posted all > that, I would > not have read it, I assure you. Well, no. I in-line posted. Neither top nor bottom. > Because most people in the world are illiterate it does not mean > that we should > all strive to be like them. I will

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread Wayne S
Well, if everyone would just use emacs to edit their email... I have some good macros to edit and quote with. In this message I am both top-posting and bottom-posting and middle posting, with judicious editing of the original quote. Now, the next question is, do you hold your breath when you tak

RE: EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model?

2007-02-08 Thread cjeastwd
Robert if your thinking that it represents good value, then I recommend that you just do it. I see all too often people agonising about this feature or that feature, when 99% of the time the features you need are provided by even the most basic of the cameras in the range. Its true that the sens

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread James B . Davis
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:00:36 -0800 (PST), Jane Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote/replied to: >Maybe it IS the correct way to do things, but it sure takes a lot of time to >cut and paste in an >email and I'm just not geared well to reading all the forward quotes. I >get confused, and I >lose th

Re: EOS posts

2007-02-08 Thread James B . Davis
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:14:15 -0800, Ken Durling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote/replied to: >Wow, I've gotten more posts in the last hour than I had in the last 6 >months. Must be fixed! Glad to hear it Ken! However, the intermittent problem is always the worst to trouble-shoot ;-) >(who doesn't h

EOS 5d - buy now or wait for new model?

2007-02-08 Thread Robert Read
Hi, I'm fairly new here so perhaps this is a bit off-topic, but I've actually got a question about an EOS camera. :) I'm contemplating buying a 5d, which seems like a pretty good deal with Canon's $600 rebate on top of B&H's low price. (I bought a 50mm lens a couple months ago, so I quali