Hi all,

A situation has come up similar to the nginx one.

Owncloud 7.0 has reached EOL so we either need to bring it up to date in
EPEL6 or retire it.

The bigger question though is what to do with EPEL7 and the future of
owncloud in it.

Over there, and Fedora currently, the current release is 8.0 but in the
real world™ no one wants to actually use that for anything serious.

The 8.1 and even more so 8.2 updates added significant improvements in
performance and administrator tooling.

The result is that many it seems abandoned the EPEL build in favour of the
Suse Open Build Service packages or just straight from the upstream zip
file.

You might have already read our plans for Fedora with 8.1.5 going out next
week and 8.2.3 a couple of weeks later, with a view to getting to 9.0.X a
couple of months perhaps after that.

Since starting on this path I've been asked more about EPEL than Fedora
though, with many keen to return to distribution packages.

The last time we carried out a major update in EPEL the package was just
left in epel-testing for an extended period, which we could do again, but
we'll want to do this a couple of times at least to make it to 8.2
preferably due to the extensive unbundling we've done (no bundled php
libraries in the build to go out to Fedora now) and for the features that
make it useful.

So the question ultimately is one of direction and advice requested. Is
this something to ask EPSCo explicit guidance or exception on?

It's after all of no one's interest to have a package that people don't
want to use as it's too far behind on useful features.

The larger issue is that one cannot just jump from 8.0 to 8.2 but upstream
requires passing through 8.1 first.

I don't feel I have the time to maintain owncloud80, owncloud81, owncloud82
and owncloud90 packages in parallel, it's been hard enough work just
testing a single upgrade path to what we want to support.

In addition it would seem a waste of energy maintaining packages that have
bundling issues that people don't want to use.

So... Thoughts? Advice? Log a ticket with EPSCo discuss at next meeting?

Cheers

James
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