Re: [ERPS] Balloon Tanks

2004-05-06 Thread Bill Clawson
One question I have is how to figure out how much weight gets added with a pressure fed system, for the added strengthening of the tank and for the added pressurant -- helium or nitrogen at 600 PSI should be denser than the same gas at 40 PSI (or what have you). So at some scale, one should hit a

Re: [ERPS] Balloon Tanks

2004-05-06 Thread Henry Spencer
On Thu, 6 May 2004, Bill Clawson wrote: One question I have is how to figure out how much weight gets added with a pressure fed system, for the added strengthening of the tank and for the added pressurant -- helium or nitrogen at 600 PSI should be denser than the same gas at 40 PSI (or what

[ERPS] balloon tanks

2004-05-05 Thread Navigaiter2002
Henry S said: Any pressurized tank, *especially* one pressurized to the point needed for pressure-fed engines, typically makes excellent structure with little or no added stiffening. (Witness the classical Atlas, whose tanks are just sheet-metal balloons, with essentially no strength of

Re: [ERPS] balloon tanks

2004-05-05 Thread Pierce Nichols
On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 18:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent structure? I doubt it. If nasa did it, it's wrong. That is a good starting point for CATS rocket analysis. Don't copy nasa. Do the opposite. NIH syndrome won't serve the alt.space community any better than it's served

Re: [ERPS] balloon tanks

2004-05-05 Thread Henry Spencer
On Wed, 5 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pressure-fed engines, typically makes excellent structure with little or no added stiffening. (Witness the classical Atlas, whose tanks are just sheet-metal balloons, with essentially no strength of their own.) Excellent structure? I doubt it.

Re: [ERPS] balloon tanks

2004-05-05 Thread Pierce Nichols
On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 21:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nasa has done more harm than good to the CATS movement and ignoring *that* is foolish. Look at the results, not at the biased institutionalal propaganda which they call information. We weren't talking about that. We were talking