on semantics, specification, metacircularity, \JS, etc.

2010-05-21 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
The recent thread about specifications and meta-circularity devolved into a discussion about semantics. Before one can argue whether or not the standards committee should invest effort in helping out (much less incorporating) a semantics, it helps to understand what form a *useful* semantics can

Re: on semantics, specification, metacircularity, \JS, etc.

2010-05-21 Thread Mike Samuel
2010/5/21 Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu: The recent thread about specifications and meta-circularity devolved into a discussion about semantics.  Before one can argue whether or not the standards committee should invest effort in helping out (much less incorporating) a semantics, it

RE: on semantics, specification, metacircularity, \JS, etc.

2010-05-21 Thread Allen Wirfs-Brock
-Original Message- From: es-discuss-boun...@mozilla.org [mailto:es-discuss- boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Mike Samuel ... David Herman argued that overspecification is a problem in some parts of the spec and cited Array.prototype.sort. In building your semantics, were there parts

Re: on semantics, specification, metacircularity, \JS, etc.

2010-05-21 Thread Arjun Guha
In building your semantics, were there parts of the spec that stood out as under-specified that could benefit from being described via \JS or desugar? I don't have a good answer to this question. The paper by Maffeis, Mitchell, and Taly catalogs some of these cases. We had the same problems