Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread David Bruant
Le 07/07/2011 13:11, Tom Van Cutsem a écrit : 2011/7/6 Andreas Rossberg rossb...@google.com mailto:rossb...@google.com While putting together some test cases for Object.keys, I wondered: is it intended that property names are always passed to traps as strings? That is indeed the

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread Andreas Rossberg
On 7 July 2011 13:11, Tom Van Cutsem tomvc...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/6 Andreas Rossberg rossb...@google.com While putting together some test cases for Object.keys, I wondered: is it intended that property names are always passed to traps as strings? That is indeed the intent. It seems

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread David Bruant
Le 07/07/2011 14:29, Andreas Rossberg a écrit : On 7 July 2011 13:11, Tom Van Cutsemtomvc...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/6 Andreas Rossbergrossb...@google.com It seems like a reasonable assumption, but is not currently the case everywhere (e.g. the default implementation for `keys' can violate

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread Andreas Rossberg
On 7 July 2011 14:32, David Bruant david.bru...@labri.fr wrote: However, if we assume that the getOwnPropertyNames trap is able to do type coercion on its output, there is no reason for the keys trap to not do that too, regardless of how it was implemented. Yes, that's what I would propose,

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread David Bruant
Le 07/07/2011 14:40, Andreas Rossberg a écrit : On 7 July 2011 14:32, David Bruantdavid.bru...@labri.fr wrote: However, if we assume that the getOwnPropertyNames trap is able to do type coercion on its output, there is no reason for the keys trap to not do that too, regardless of how it was

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread Andreas Rossberg
On 7 July 2011 15:09, David Bruant david.bru...@labri.fr wrote: Yes, that's what I would propose, too. It's just a bit ugly that we have to do that in two places now. Three if counting the enumerate trap for for-in loops. Regardless of ugliness, it's necessary. keys and enumerate are derived

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread David Herman
2011/7/6 Andreas Rossberg rossb...@google.com While putting together some test cases for Object.keys, I wondered: is it intended that property names are always passed to traps as strings? That is indeed the intent. Unless they are private name objects, right? Dave

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread Andreas Rossberg
On 7 July 2011 16:12, David Bruant david.bru...@labri.fr wrote: Derived traps as showed are written in JS for expository purposes. Engines will be free to optimize as they wish internally as long as the observed behavior is the same. True, but optimizing that actually is more tricky than you

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread Brendan Eich
On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Andreas Rossberg wrote: On 7 July 2011 16:12, David Bruant david.bru...@labri.fr wrote: Derived traps as showed are written in JS for expository purposes. Engines will be free to optimize as they wish internally as long as the observed behavior is the same.

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread Andreas Rossberg
On 7 July 2011 17:58, Brendan Eich bren...@mozilla.com wrote: On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Andreas Rossberg wrote: On 7 July 2011 16:12, David Bruant david.bru...@labri.fr wrote: Derived traps as showed are written in JS for expository purposes. Engines will be free to optimize as they wish

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread David Bruant
Le 07/07/2011 18:05, Andreas Rossberg a écrit : On 7 July 2011 17:58, Brendan Eich bren...@mozilla.com wrote: On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Andreas Rossberg wrote: On 7 July 2011 16:12, David Bruant david.bru...@labri.fr wrote: Derived traps as showed are written in JS for expository purposes.

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread David Bruant
Le 07/07/2011 18:24, David Bruant a écrit : Le 07/07/2011 18:05, Andreas Rossberg a écrit : On 7 July 2011 17:58, Brendan Eich bren...@mozilla.com wrote: On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Andreas Rossberg wrote: On 7 July 2011 16:12, David Bruant david.bru...@labri.fr wrote: Derived traps as

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread Andreas Rossberg
On 7 July 2011 19:35, David Bruant david.bru...@labri.fr wrote: No, with the current keys default trap (calling this.getOwnPropertyNames()) there is no double conversion. Only one at the exit of the keys trap. There would be 2 conversions if the keys trap had the proxy argument (based on

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Mike Samuel
2011/7/7 Lasse Reichstein reichsteinatw...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Mike Samuel mikesam...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, by the extension, and whether a \octal is a backreference or an octal escape sequence is determined by whether there are parseInt(octal, 10) capturing groups to

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Mike Samuel
2011/7/7 Mike Samuel mikesam...@gmail.com: Interestingly other perl 5 interpreters other perl 5 interpreters - other perl 5 style regex libraries ___ es-discuss mailing list es-discuss@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Oliver Hunt
CC'ing Gavin as he's been looking at RegExp compatibility in the real world vs. the spec recently. --Oliver On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Mike Samuel wrote: 2011/7/7 Lasse Reichstein reichsteinatw...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Mike Samuel mikesam...@gmail.com wrote:

feature-based and compartment-based language versioning (was: JavaScript parser API)

2011-07-07 Thread Claus Reinke
The discussion of parser APIs had a side-thread on language versioning which I'd like to raise separately, for those not following the parser discussions. I include the relevant context, then continue the thread below. But there are also tough questions about what the parser should do with

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Lasse Reichstein
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:17:17 +0200, Mike Samuel mikesam...@gmail.com wrote: One way to tell whether the group initialized to empty works on an interpreter is to test /^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxyxyx) which is true in most interpreters, but false in Rhino1.7 and Chrome12. I do believe it

Re: Type of property names, as seen by proxy traps

2011-07-07 Thread David Bruant
Le 07/07/2011 20:52, Andreas Rossberg a écrit : On 7 July 2011 19:35, David Bruant david.bru...@labri.fr wrote: No, with the current keys default trap (calling this.getOwnPropertyNames()) there is no double conversion. Only one at the exit of the keys trap. There would be 2 conversions if the

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Brendan Eich
On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Lasse Reichstein wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:17:17 +0200, Mike Samuel mikesam...@gmail.com wrote: One way to tell whether the group initialized to empty works on an interpreter is to test /^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxyxyx) which is true in most interpreters,

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Gavin Barraclough
On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Lasse Reichstein wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:17:17 +0200, Mike Samuel One way to tell whether the group initialized to empty works on an interpreter is to test /^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxyxyx) which is true in most interpreters, but false in Rhino1.7 and

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Mike Samuel
2011/7/7 Brendan Eich bren...@mozilla.com: On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Lasse Reichstein wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:17:17 +0200, Mike Samuel mikesam...@gmail.com wrote: One way to tell whether the group initialized to empty works on an interpreter is to test    

RE: test262 Update

2011-07-07 Thread Dave Fugate
Hi everyone, the test case improvements I alluded to last week have all been checked in and updated on the live website. Enabling previously invalid tests and disabling recently reported invalid tests amounted to a net gain of eleven tests for the entire suite. Also, worth mentioning is

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Gavin Barraclough
On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Mike Samuel wrote: Agreed. Would that mean that /^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxxyx) !/^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxyxyx) If so, V8 agrees with that, the species of monkey in FF 5 does not, the JsCore in Safari 533.21 does not, and Rhino does. Yes. This is

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Mike Samuel
2011/7/7 Gavin Barraclough barraclo...@apple.com: On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Mike Samuel wrote: Agreed. Would that mean that    /^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxxyx) !/^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxyxyx) If so, V8 agrees with that, the species of monkey in FF 5 does not, the JsCore in Safari

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Brendan Eich
On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Gavin Barraclough wrote: On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Mike Samuel wrote: Agreed. Would that mean that /^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxxyx) !/^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxyxyx) If so, V8 agrees with that, the species of monkey in FF 5 does not, the JsCore in

Re: /\1/ could be a valid RegExp through Chapter 16 Extension clause?

2011-07-07 Thread Brendan Eich
On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Mike Samuel wrote: 2011/7/7 Gavin Barraclough barraclo...@apple.com: On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Mike Samuel wrote: Agreed. Would that mean that /^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxxyx) !/^(?:\1x(y)x){2}$/.test(xyxyxyx) If so, V8 agrees with that, the species

Public/private namespaces in harmony classes proposal

2011-07-07 Thread Gavin Barraclough
Hi Mark, In the harmony classes proposal, http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:classes , I'm interested in understanding the following issue: One or two namespaces for public properties and private instance variables [RESOLVED two, Mark’s argument] Do you remember if this