Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-14 Thread David Bruant
Le 12/06/2014 16:43, Domenic Denicola a écrit : Also, David: s are not named; you cannot import them. Check out https://github.com/dherman/web-modules/blob/master/module-tag/explainer.md Thanks, that's the context I was missing. I'm uncomfortable with the "async" part of the proposal as curren

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-14 Thread Mathias Bynens
On 13 Jun 2014, at 18:15, Domenic Denicola wrote: > IMO it would be a good universe where `` had the following things > `

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Rick Waldron wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Anne van Kesteren > wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Mark S. Miller >> wrote: >> > Hi Anne, I didn't understand the answer. When an old browser that knows >> > nothing of specifically sees "", do

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread Mark S. Miller
Thanks, and thanks to Hixie for that playground. I can't see us adopting parsing rules for a new tag that results in different structure for the rest of the page on old vs new browsers. Otherwise we just invite a whole new category of injection attacks. On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Anne va

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Rick Waldron wrote: > To be clear, you're referring to the automatic placement of as a > descendant of BODY even if it's explicitly written inside (but > not for

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread Rick Waldron
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Mark S. Miller > wrote: > > Hi Anne, I didn't understand the answer. When an old browser that knows > > nothing of specifically sees "", does it > > consider the to be closed when it sees the ? This

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Mark S. Miller wrote: > Hi Anne, I didn't understand the answer. When an old browser that knows > nothing of specifically sees "", does it > consider the to be closed when it sees the ? This also > raises the question: Does such an old browser consider the to b

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread Mark S. Miller
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Mark S. Miller > wrote: > > Does there exist any string where an old browser using old rules would > > decide that a is closed at one place, but a new browser > following > > the rules you propose would

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Mark S. Miller wrote: > Does there exist any string where an old browser using old rules would > decide that a is closed at one place, but a new browser following > the rules you propose would decide that the is closed at a > different place? Is that the constra

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread Mark S. Miller
Does there exist any string where an old browser using old rules would decide that a is closed at one place, but a new browser following the rules you propose would decide that the is closed at a different place? On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Domenic Denicola < dome...@domenicdenicola.com> w

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Domenic Denicola wrote: > - Does not require escaping < > & ' " in any contexts. `<` will need to be escaped if it would otherwise start ` - Terminates when seeing ` only when it would otherwise be a parsing error, to avoid `""` > grossness? But that would requi

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:06 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > To some degree the line between the HTML parser and Web EcmaScript is > movable; currently the HTML parser recognizes the `

RE: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread Domenic Denicola
Thanks Scott; much appreciated. IMO it would be a good universe where `` had the following things `

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Domenic Denicola wrote: > I guess part of it is clarifying which part of "

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-12 Thread John Barton
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Domenic Denicola < dome...@domenicdenicola.com> wrote: > I like , simply as a better . Whether it's worth the > cost is largely a matter of finding out what the cost is, from > implementers. I don't recall reading any opinions from them on the matter. > > > Hixi

RE: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-12 Thread Domenic Denicola
> But a module embedded in html needs script's insane parsing rules. That's why > doesn't work and we need

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-12 Thread Mark S. Miller
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Domenic Denicola < dome...@domenicdenicola.com> wrote: > I like , simply as a better

RE: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-12 Thread Domenic Denicola
;es-discuss-boun...@mozilla.org> on behalf of John Barton <johnjbar...@google.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:02 To: David Bruant Cc: Ben Newman; es-discuss Subject: Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes I urge TC39 to assess the cost/benefit of <module> carefully. It brings in a lo

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-12 Thread John Barton
I urge TC39 to assess the cost/benefit of carefully. It brings in a lot of issues orthogonal to JS. is already a mess and HTML Imports are barely a thing. Web developers need a solution to the bundling problem for ES modules with much, much higher priority than . On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at

Re: 5 June 2014 TC39 Meeting Notes

2014-06-12 Thread David Bruant
Le 11/06/2014 18:21, Ben Newman a écrit : ## 7.1 status update (from DH) DH: Would really rather have import { foo } from "bar"; ..., which is like